Karen & Mark Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 From SWPL. Constitution of Divisions Season 2012/13 At the Board Meeting of the Carlsberg South West Peninsula League held on Tuesday 15th May at Kimberley Stadium, Saltash, taking into account league positions and the recommendations of the Ground Grading Committee who had visited each applicant, it was agreed: Division One to Premier: Both Champions of East & West are promoted to the Premier Division: Liverton United (dispensation granted for lights to be erected) and Newquay (meets ground standards in present form). As Buckland Athletic have been promoted to Western League Premier Division and the Royal Marines have withdrawn from league football there are no clubs to be relegated from Premier to Division One this season. Three other applicants for promotion had been received, of these Godolphin Atlantic, Helston Athletic and Stoke Gabriel were all declined as the Champion club had been accepted and as such a 2nd club cannot be promoted from the same division. Feeder Leagues to Step 7: Of the five applicants only Sticker AFC (East Cornwall Premier League) are promoted to Division One, and will be placed in West. The other four applicants: Two, Bude Town and Topsham Town, were declined because they failed to finish in a sufficient league position for promotion. Two others, Seaton Town and St Martins, were declined because the board were not satisfied that the grounds were acceptable for Step 7 football under FA ground grading regulations. Boundary Adjustments: No clubs will be required to transfer from either East to West or West to East this year. The league will operate next season with 53 Clubs of which 20 will be in the Premier Division, 16 in Division One East and 17 in Division One West. P A Hiscox (Company Secretary) 16th May 2012 _________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORTH DEVON DWELLER Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Official congratulations to both Newquay & Liverton on promotion to the Premier. Newquay will be a new ground for Withy and we look forward to our visit. We have been to Liverton before but will look forward to this trip also. Well Done Both :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 So, after 5 seasons, the SWPL is still short 3 teams. Makes you wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 What makes you wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldy Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Why the league is still 3 teams short after 5 years. No, I'm not being obscure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBlazey Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I don't see the issue. 16-18 teams is fine for step 7 league. And 18-22 is fine for step 6 leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad ferret Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 It doesn't make me wonder, I think it is a great league and now clubs are showing an interest in promotion, clubs might start to see it's potential too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paignton-nick74 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 So, after 5 seasons, the SWPL is still short 3 teams. Makes you wonder. Why? If clubs who are wishing to join the league don't finish high enough in the feeder leagues or don't have the required minimum ground grading, that's their fault, not the league. Jeez, why is there still people who knock th eSWPL? It's a great league and one I shall miss seeing Buckland play in next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippy Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 I don't see the issue. 16-18 teams is fine for step 7 league. Agree, except some Combo clubs don't get it and believe that 18 or 19 clubs is not enough for step 8. Then complain about playing 4 fixtures a week, reserve teams stacking sides midweek with SWP players, having fixtures until late May with players and pitches not available due to cricket etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBlazey Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 I don't see the issue. 16-18 teams is fine for step 7 league. Agree, except some Combo clubs don't get it and believe that 18 or 19 clubs is not enough for step 8. Then complain about playing 4 fixtures a week, reserve teams stacking sides midweek with SWP players, having fixtures until late May with players and pitches not available due to cricket etc. This is why the Combination League is always one of the few leagues still playing at the end of May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Last Combo league games completed today. Last game of their season tomorrow with the Supp Cup Final - earliest they've finished for years I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pro Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I still don't understand why Ivybridge r still in the Prem Why save them? How is this fair on Soke and Helston? Rules are Rules if your breaking the rules for 1 then surely its not fair? That's my feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 "breaking the rules" - bit harsh to suggest. Don't think one of the best leagues around for admin would do such a thing. However the whole process of promotion and relegation seems pretty much a headache from SWPL all the way down through the league system. Wouldn't it be so much better if clubs knew their possible outcome as the season is winding up, rather than have to wait in some cases until Agms etc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 No rules have been broken but they do state that only ONE Club can be promoted from Division 1 East and ONE Club from Division 1 West: Promoted Clubs must also be Champions or Runners-up of their Division, with the Champions taking priority over the Runners-up if they have both applied and both have satisfied the ground grading criteria. Peninsula League applicants for promotion were all made fully aware of their prospects in early April but obviously - if their facilities have been judged to be OK - the finishing position of the Clubs is the most critical factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pro Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Point I'm making is the rules say bottom 2 should be relagated and only 1 team come up from west and east div So why save ivybridge and not promote stoke or Helston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dev Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Do you have something against ivybridge?the rules have always been the same,havent falmouth and elburton both been saved in a similar way in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pro Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Nothing against ivybridge fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Ivybridge was saved due to Buckland going up to Western League. Elburton were saved last season due to Stoke Gabriel not taking promotion after withdrawing there application to do up. I agree the rule needs to be changed so that the bottom 2 go down from the Premier division, providing of course the teams coming up meet the criteria. If you remember some years ago Clubs from the Conferance league could not go up because there ground was not upto standard, Stevenage springs to mind as they won the league 3 yrs running, sure someone will correct on that, and could not go up. They also had the lottery of League Clubs voting on whether the bottom team got relegated out of the football league, closed shop springs to mind. At least we do not have this sytem in place with the SWPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foz06 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Ivybridge was saved due to Buckland going up to Western League. Elburton were saved last season due to Stoke Gabriel not taking promotion after withdrawing there application to do up. I agree the rule needs to be changed so that the bottom 2 go down from the Premier division, providing of course the teams coming up meet the criteria. If you remember some years ago Clubs from the Conferance league could not go up because there ground was not upto standard, Stevenage springs to mind as they won the league 3 yrs running, sure someone will correct on that, and could not go up. They also had the lottery of League Clubs voting on whether the bottom team got relegated out of the football league, closed shop springs to mind. At least we do not have this sytem in place with the SWPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foz06 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Stevenage won the conference once.....2009-2010 season duncs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyblueref Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Why not look into relegating the bottom 3 from the prem, promote champions from east & west and the winner of a play-off between east and west runners up. This would keep things a little more interesting until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiksilver Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Why not look into relegating the bottom 3 from the prem, promote champions from east & west and the winner of a play-off between east and west runners up. This would keep things a little more interesting until the end of the season. Only problem with that is if you have the scenario there was last year in the east, that the winners nor runners up wanted to take promotion and withdrew applications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Villains Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I still don't understand why Ivybridge r still in the Prem Why save them? How is this fair on Soke and Helston? Rules are Rules if your breaking the rules for 1 then surely its not fair? That's my feedback You can't have read the first posting and other posting stating the facts to the reason why! What rules have been broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgerow Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Stevenage won the conference once.....2009-2010 season duncs!! 1995-96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argyle Fan Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Stevenage won the conference once.....2009-2010 season duncs!! 1995-96 I think it was Torquay who were saved from relegation in 1995-96 when Stevenage's ground was not up to FL standard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paignton-nick74 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Stevenage won the conference once.....2009-2010 season duncs!! Wrong there fella! We also won it in 1995-1996 but couldn't go up due to ground not satisfying the football league in time, thus saving Torquay United from going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argyle Fan Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Stevenage won the conference once.....2009-2010 season duncs!! Wrong there fella! We also won it in 1995-1996 but couldn't go up due to ground not satisfying the football league in time, thus saving Torquay United from going down. Probably before foz06 was born!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foz06 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Oh i was born.....didnt scroll down that far on wikipedia! My mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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