Richard Chown Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Kev Marriott of West Briton reporting @kjmarriott57: Hearing that Paul Blatchford has left Liskeard Ath by mutual consent after yesterday's defeat at Godolphin. #cornishfootball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 This job is a massive task for anybody looking to take it on . Being Liskeard born and raised , and a regular at Lux Park for many years , I do find it very sad what is happening at this great club . Probably a sign of the times though that relatively new clubs ( Parkway,Buckland Athletic and Godolphin) are thriving , while some of the stalwarts of local football ( Liskeard ,Falmouth and Penzance) are struggling . St Austell and Exmouth have shown that clubs can revive their fortunes if the local support is in place , hopefully Liskeard can do the same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon123 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Its a shame what is happening at Liskeard as they are a club with a great history and I always enjoy my trips to Lux Park and hope they get a new manager in soon that can bring back some stability to the club. But clubs like Parkway, Buckland and Godolphin are thriving because they are the clubs that have the money and pay players well. Likewise St Austell and Exmouth, both clubs in years gone by have struggled in their respective leagues as they didn't have that much money or any at all but now they both have money behind them they are doing very well. Penzance, Falmouth and Liskeard, not much money if any at all and all struggling. Teams that have money will ALWAYS be the teams competing at the top of leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Its not money that we struggle with, we are re-building the committee and looking to get more local people involved on and off the pitch so now is a good time to step up if anyone fancies it!!!! MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaoke Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Its a shame what is happening at Liskeard as they are a club with a great history and I always enjoy my trips to Lux Park and hope they get a new manager in soon that can bring back some stability to the club. But clubs like Parkway, Buckland and Godolphin are thriving because they are the clubs that have the money and pay players well. Likewise St Austell and Exmouth, both clubs in years gone by have struggled in their respective leagues as they didn't have that much money or any at all but now they both have money behind them they are doing very well. Penzance, Falmouth and Liskeard, not much money if any at all and all struggling. Teams that have money will ALWAYS be the teams competing at the top of leagues. I don't think money is a problem at Liskeard but they are short of people willing to help in the day to day running of the club according to MQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 If money is not the problem you need to look at their old manager then, clearly not performed as the league table says!! and tbh since Burgess left, they have gone down hill, sorry Blatch but you have had a complete shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monty Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Your biggest mistake wad ridding darren edwards as much as everyone loathe him, he suited liskeard and liskeard suited him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Mangers leave for many different reasons, we have not had much success in the last few years and managers have not stayed with the club. Can you explain "ridding Darren Edwards" ?? MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monty Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 No. !! But there was a better team doing the thing on the pitch which is what matters at this level more than anything. X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 What matters at this level is getting people through the turnstile..... simples!! MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattP Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 As I see it, two choices at this level. Throw a big budget at the job, and accept that you may end up with a team of mercenaries with no local connection and hence a small fan base. Or, go local, at whatever level that may be, with little or no budget, and get people through the turnstiles to watch a side they empathise with. I'd put money on Liskeard second team (predominantly locally based) having a far bigger average gate than the SWPL side. Sooner or later, a big club is going to the wall over their footballing budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon123 Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 A fair comment there MATTP and don't think you are too far away with that statement. A lot depends on what the club itself wants. If Liskeard want success then it'll cost money. If they want just a local team then they are probably going to have to accept that where they are now is where they are going to be. I don't know what sort of budget Blatchford had there but looking at a few names in recent squads, it couldn't have been a lot to work and that's probably the reason they are where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redex Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Can someone answer me honestly, do you think most teams in this league should be paying,because the standard of football isn't that good, surely you are better building a club from local players and the junior section if they have one, rather than wasting money on players that couldn't give a jot on the result as long as they get paid !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Sounds like a plan! MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boney Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 I keep hearing "the standard isn't that good". Compared to what??? Compared to Western League, Conference, Football League, Premiership... Sunday League....the under 10's???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I agree, the standard is very poor, you probably got 7 decent teams in the premier, the west and East division is like the old East Cornwall league very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gooner Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 That doesn't say a lot for East cornwall and the Duchy league then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1951 Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 The standard today compared with 20, 10 or even 5 years ago is pretty poor. Too many average or worse players think they are gods' gift to football and think they know it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaoke Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 We used to have a South Western League, Cornwall Comb and East Cornwall League. That boils down to Peninsula Prem, the top half of Division 1 West being Cornwall Comb/EastCornwall Prem and the bottom half being Duchy. If you look at it like that there wouldn't be to much differance although the whole standard has dropped but that includes the Western League as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaoke Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Sounds like a plan! MQx Wish you were right but not many cornish teams could survive and be competive on local players alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 It depends how you define "competitive" If you mean trying to win every game and every cup match every season then I agree, survival is difficult, but if competitive meant putting 2 squads of local based players out every week and not getting thrashed and relegated, I reckon we could fulfill that role! It would bring some enjoyment back and some more punters through the turnstiles as well. MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the ledge Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Sounds like McHugh is pitching for the job publicly. Is he up to it? by the way... the local thing...... its been tried before at lots of clubs...... it doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaoke Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 It depends how you define "competitive" If you mean trying to win every game and every cup match every season then I agree, survival is difficult, but if competitive meant putting 2 squads of local based players out every week and not getting thrashed and relegated, I reckon we could fulfill that role! It would bring some enjoyment back and some more punters through the turnstiles as well. MQx If you want that come and watch Dobwalls ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmooreshead Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Dobwalls players local ? Local to where ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the ledge Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I think its sad that a club just wants to ''exist'' Surely the best journey to be on is one of which you try to win Trophy's. As a player that's what you remember when you have finished, Not the day that you came 11th in front of 50 local supporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmooreshead Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 And there's no point trying to run before you can walk Liskeard have,in the past been up there with the very best in westcountry football Those days have gone, and it would appear that a new strategy is required Why not give it a go. May be the foundations to build on in order to move onto, hopefully, better times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the ledge Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Historically it doesn't work. Many Clubs have tried to implement local policy's For me it would be better having a core squad of local lads, but not a squad that is exclusively local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I think its sad that a club just wants to ''exist'' Surely the best journey to be on is one of which you try to win Trophy's. As a player that's what you remember when you have finished, Not the day that you came 11th in front of 50 local supporters The sad bit is that we are struggling to exist and unless we do something about it we will cease to exist. Are you saying that it is better to end up in debt like most clubs in order to pay 7 or 8 hundred pounds per game so that you might win 2 or 3 grand back at the end of the season?? As a player I remember far more than wining trophies and as a manager and coach I have many fantastic memories un-connected to winning trophies. At the moment, coming 11th in front of 50 supporters sounds like a promising start!! And as I have said before Billy the ledge, I dont want the job but will help out until someone as wonderful as yourself puts your name in the ring and steps up or shuts up!!! MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaoke Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Dobwalls players local ? Local to where ? Ha Ha private joke with me and Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaoke Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I think its sad that a club just wants to ''exist'' Surely the best journey to be on is one of which you try to win Trophy's. As a player that's what you remember when you have finished, Not the day that you came 11th in front of 50 local supporters The sad bit is that we are struggling to exist and unless we do something about it we will cease to exist. Are you saying that it is better to end up in debt like most clubs in order to pay 7 or 8 hundred pounds per game so that you might win 2 or 3 grand back at the end of the season?? As a player I remember far more than wining trophies and as a manager and coach I have many fantastic memories un-connected to winning trophies. At the moment, coming 11th in front of 50 supporters sounds like a promising start!! And as I have said before Billy the ledge, I dont want the job but will help out until someone as wonderful as yourself puts your name in the ring and steps up or shuts up!!! MQx Hey Mate if anyone can do it you can so give it a try and at the end of the season if you don't go down it would mean success and think of the money you would have saved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Sounds harsh but i believe Liskeard, Tavistock, Saltash, Bodmin, Callington have local lads playing for there 2nd teams? And what league r they in? East Cornwall, local players won't work. Standard would drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Sounds harsh but i believe Liskeard, Tavistock, Saltash, Bodmin, Callington have local lads playing for there 2nd teams? And what league r they in? East Cornwall, local players won't work. Standard would drop. Its not harsh but Im more than happy with our local boys playing in East Cornwall leagues but if we are not good enough or cant afford to play in a higher leaue than that, why should we struggle each season. Find your level and start again!! MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the ledge Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 I think its sad that a club just wants to ''exist'' Surely the best journey to be on is one of which you try to win Trophy's. As a player that's what you remember when you have finished, Not the day that you came 11th in front of 50 local supporters The sad bit is that we are struggling to exist and unless we do something about it we will cease to exist. Are you saying that it is better to end up in debt like most clubs in order to pay 7 or 8 hundred pounds per game so that you might win 2 or 3 grand back at the end of the season?? As a player I remember far more than wining trophies and as a manager and coach I have many fantastic memories un-connected to winning trophies. At the moment, coming 11th in front of 50 supporters sounds like a promising start!! And as I have said before Billy the ledge, I dont want the job but will help out until someone as wonderful as yourself puts your name in the ring and steps up or shuts up!!! MQx No I'm not saying bankrupt yourselves, You seem to have a lot to say, yet you rule yourself out of the running. Why don't you step up to the plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 You are correct about 1 thing, I am a gobby git and I do have a lot to say so maybe ur right, I should give it a go, at least I could say I tried! MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the ledge Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Its a big jump for ecpl players tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 And managers>>>>>>> obviously............ MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the ledge Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yes very true. Whats happening with an appointment? are you staying on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 24, 2013 Report Share Posted September 24, 2013 Have said I will help them out temporary as I have done a couple of times before when managers have moved on, then will look at what the club want and see what the advert states before I decide. MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUGWASH Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 MQ , You are a Team Manager and I am sure you should not be on this forum being so vocal. Surely your club can not be happy with this. Show some respect for your club and don't get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the ledge Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 He can't help it. Bites all the time. managers who post on here will never win as there are so many wind ups. Plus if your the manager at a club, posting on here lacks class. Bdlx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 There are plenty of managers that post on here, the difference is that I use my real name. Regarding "biting" I dont think that replying to comments on a forum is classed as that, it is a forum and I have been posting on here for many years. The committee are regularly on the forum and to date they have not passed any comments regarding my posts but thank you for your concern. If I lack class in your eyes then add up the amount of nights sleep I will loose over this and multiply it by the active brain cells you have and the figure should come out at approximately zero.!! Happy fishing boys !! MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUGWASH Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I do not agree with you MQ. You Managers should not be vocal on this site ( not under your name at least ) . You should respect your club more and keep quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaoke Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I do not agree with you MQ. You Managers should not be vocal on this site ( not under your name at least ) . You should respect your club more and keep quiet. So if the managers, referees, players etc didn't come on what a boring place it would be. If you new MQ he is the biggest wind up person you could meet so lighten up and join in with his laugh cus if not he will be laughing at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Home Waters Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I do not agree with you MQ. You Managers should not be vocal on this site ( not under your name at least ) . You should respect your club more and keep quiet. What about Sports Reporters - should they be on here !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmooreshead Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Pugwash - You talk Hogwash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Rosevear Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 MQx is clearly very passionate about his club. He cares about what happens at Liskeard Athletic and that is proven by the amount of work he does behind the scenes. Why shouldn't he post? It's not like he's saying anything controversial is it? Surely the whole point of this forum is that people can offer opinion. Supporters, spectators, managers, players... everyone!? It's a free world Pugwash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Some good managers around the area that would/could turn it around.. Lenny, ficey but to name two! Paul sturrock been active at lux park this season aswell...cant be all bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUGWASH Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 I do not agree with you MQ. You Managers should not be vocal on this site ( not under your name at least ) . You should respect your club more and keep quiet. What about Sports Reporters - should they be on here !!!!!! I do not agree with you MQ. You Managers should not be vocal on this site ( not under your name at least ) . You should respect your club more and keep quiet. What about Sports Reporters - should they be on here !!!!!! Yes , that's ok. What do you think of ex -committee members being on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUGWASH Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Pugwash - You talk Hogwash Pugwash - You talk Hogwash I like that one, Hogwash lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin McHugh Posted September 25, 2013 Report Share Posted September 25, 2013 Some great comments on here now, Its only banter combined with fishing, a few bites here and there and if people want to hide behind a name thats their choice. When you next see me at a game (firsts or seconds) make sure you come and and say hello. MQx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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