cornishteddyboy Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Developers-Falmouth-Town-AFC-sells-ground-2-4m/story-20303549-detail/story.html#axzz2n6SBtpe4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointers Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Good times ahead.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Biggest mistake ever ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 This could secure the future of Falmouth Town for many years .Hopefully the money will be used to fund a club with a thriving youth and ladies sections , together with a firm commercial infrastructure that will guarantee a self sustainable club for many years ,and not blown on short term success featuring inflated expenses paid out to mercenary players coming from far and wide . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted December 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 No groundshare with Truro City then. Where will the Tigers go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 At present figures do not add up. Sell for 2.4m but have to buy a LARGE chunk of land to house a sports centre and then one has to build it! 2.4m is not a lot to do all of this. Also remember the number of full time staff to employ. The major expense of any business is staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 The only way to realise the sports complex is to throw in with the school, certainly not enough money there to even do a quarter of what's been stated in the press. Falmouth Town on a school pitch !!! that'll look good, if, and a big if, the football authorities allow it. They probably will. Then you have to run it with your other partners, no longer masters of your own destiny, short term gain ( on the cusp of closing maybe) long term pain, will play second fiddle to the other complex users on a few occasion no doubt. Unless its all a smokescreen, and they have a site in mind. If read correctly, they have two years to get their house in order. A few bob up front from the developer should keep the creditors at bay. Best of luck from me, going to be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Smiling Assassin Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 This could secure the future of Falmouth Town for many years .Hopefully the money will be used to fund a club with a thriving youth and ladies sections , together with a firm commercial infrastructure that will guarantee a self sustainable club for many years ,and not blown on short term success featuring inflated expenses paid out to mercenary players coming from far and wide . Oh the irony! It was not too long ago that a lot of mercenary players left Parkway when the money dried up. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 This could secure the future of Falmouth Town for many years .Hopefully the money will be used to fund a club with a thriving youth and ladies sections , together with a firm commercial infrastructure that will guarantee a self sustainable club for many years ,and not blown on short term success featuring inflated expenses paid out to mercenary players coming from far and wide . Oh the irony! It was not too long ago that a lot of mercenary players left Parkway when the money dried up. :-) You are quite right , I'm not disagreeing with you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 once the ground is sold, I can see no future for town as a football club. Surely someone has got to work out some financial figures ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Sounds like a project for kevin heaney! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number5 Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Cornwall council to buy it for stadium for Cornwall!! Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 At present figures do not add up. Sell for 2.4m but have to buy a LARGE chunk of land to house a sports centre and then one has to build it! 2.4m is not a lot to do all of this. Also remember the number of full time staff to employ. The major expense of any business is staff.[/quoteReading the newspaper report "planning laws state that the successful developer will have to fund the relocation of a new football pitch"What would be the yield on selling 70+ houses? a lot more than £2.4m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 The committee seem to have gone very quite on this. Do they not owe the loyal supporters (there are still a few) some sort ofstatement ?As regards the press statement, there is no mention of building all the infrastructure. This will cost what the ground will besold for at least if they are going to go for a full sports complex ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberfalman Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 The committee seem to have gone very quite on this. Do they not owe the loyal supporters (there are still a few) some sort of statement ? Did you have attend the public meeting the club held where the problems the club is facing was discussed? Or, for that matter, the meeting recently when the club asked for volunteers to help out; as a 'loyal supporter' you would surely have attended that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammers Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 No groundshare with Truro City then. Where will the Tigers go? Summerset ? Hammers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammers Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 The only way to realise the sports complex is to throw in with the school, certainly not enough money there to even do a quarter of what's been stated in the press. Falmouth Town on a school pitch !!! that'll look good, if, and a big if, the football authorities allow it. They probably will. Then you have to run it with your other partners, no longer masters of your own destiny, short term gain ( on the cusp of closing maybe) long term pain, will play second fiddle to the other complex users on a few occasion no doubt. Unless its all a smokescreen, and they have a site in mind. If read correctly, they have two years to get their house in order. A few bob up front from the developer should keep the creditors at bay. Best of luck from me, going to be interesting. Better than Truro City they do not have a football ground to sell, O'Dear maybe Mr perryman will buy a a piece of ground on Bodmin moor to provide a Football ground for Truro City.Hammers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammers Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 once the ground is sold, I can see no future for town as a football club. Surely someone has got to work out some financial figures ! Come on Big AL Your a Falmouth town supporter, Have faith in your club & at the end of the day We do have a ground to sell which is more than The Mighty Truro City have.Hammers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1951 Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 This is not the first time Town have sold their ground. Anybody remember Ashfield? Think of the good times that came from that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Due to the small numbers watching matches and the shortage of volunteers I predict that, sometime in the future, Falmouth F.C. and Penryn F.C. will become one club. It will also happen elsewhere e.g. Newquay and Godolphin. In my mind it's not a question of if but when! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 The only way to realise the sports complex is to throw in with the school, certainly not enough money there to even do a quarter of what's been stated in the press. Falmouth Town on a school pitch !!! that'll look good, if, and a big if, the football authorities allow it. They probably will. Then you have to run it with your other partners, no longer masters of your own destiny, short term gain ( on the cusp of closing maybe) long term pain, will play second fiddle to the other complex users on a few occasion no doubt. Unless its all a smokescreen, and they have a site in mind. If read correctly, they have two years to get their house in order. A few bob up front from the developer should keep the creditors at bay. Best of luck from me, going to be interesting. Better than Truro City they do not have a football ground to sell, O'Dear maybe Mr perryman will buy a a piece of ground on Bodmin moor to provide a Football ground for Truro City.Hammers Why quote my post and then post that ? Certainly have an asset to sell, but, no better off than Truro at this time, both on the slide. Watched that drivel at Truro last night, jeez, that was bad - from both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted December 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 If they get it, will Falmouth Town invest the whole of that £2.4M or use a wad of it to pay off their debts first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 If they get it, will Falmouth Town invest the whole of that £2.4M or use a wad of it to pay off their debts first? Don't be daft, this is being done to keep the creditors at bay, they'll be waiting at the bank door when the cheque is banked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Due to the small numbers watching matches and the shortage of volunteers I predict that, sometime in the future, Falmouth F.C. and Penryn F.C. will become one club. It will also happen elsewhere e.g. Newquay and Godolphin. In my mind it's not a question of if but when! I have also beliveved this for a while , you could factor in the decreasing pool of players as well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammers Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Due to the small numbers watching matches and the shortage of volunteers I predict that, sometime in the future, Falmouth F.C. and Penryn F.C. will become one club. It will also happen elsewhere e.g. Newquay and Godolphin. In my mind it's not a question of if but when! I have also beliveved this for a while , you could factor in the decreasing pool of players as well . It is reported that Falmouth have a debt of £100,000 the sale of Bickland Park would clear this, with plenty to spare, If they have a joint stadium with Falmouth School, Hammers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Due to the small numbers watching matches and the shortage of volunteers I predict that, sometime in the future, Falmouth F.C. and Penryn F.C. will become one club. It will also happen elsewhere e.g. Newquay and Godolphin. In my mind it's not a question of if but when! I have also beliveved this for a while , you could factor in the decreasing pool of players as well . It is reported that Falmouth have a debt of £100,000 the sale of Bickland Park would clear this, with plenty to spare, If they have a joint stadium with Falmouth School, Hammers Didn't the packet report a debt of £240,000 of the combined clubs??? - social and football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 The club being so secretive, we will never know ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 So secretive? Why should they broadcast how much they owe? 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denty01 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 The club being so secretive, we will never know ! Big Al I am led to believe you are a Falmouth supporter, I really do find it hard to believe as you do nothing but criticise or post negative comments. With supporters like you I would rather you turned your allegiance to another club, doubt they would want you for long if you continued on the same vain with them. If you want some straight answers and then maybe help the club move forward come and speak to me in person at our next game, if you really are a supporter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Why dont you get a result somewhere to give him some festive joy! He may cheer up abit then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denty01 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Wondered how long it would take for you to make your usual snide remark. Why not stop hiding behind an alias, now that would be a result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Results seem hard to accomplish !I am not really interested in how much the club owes, but as supporter since the 60s, seeing the club where it is now is ratherheartbreaking. If the club wants continued support from all people, then surely an update on its affairs would not go amiss.Remember without supporters there is no financial input. I can only comment from what I see on the field and for over 18 monthsthat has not been good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 the commitee at Falmouth Town would not take this decision lightly and uproot the club and history without good reason ,it is a shame and as all clubs that own their own grounds the upkeep and insurances before even a ball is kicked take up a big chunk of revenue which even in the close season still has to be paid ,it is very easy to have a go at this people who make these decisions but who else wants to get involved ? if there are the debts what choice do the club have ? do we want this historic club to perish and have to go bankrupt ? better to plan for the future as the dwindling standard of living for most people has dropped over the last few years and money is spent on household bills and not say going and having a few pints with your mates at football , income is going down right across football at our local level and sponsership is becoming harder to get as firms feel the pinch , it must be really upsetting for fans who have followed this great club and the history it has over the years , but needs must and sometimes you have to hit these problems and plan for the future so there is still Falmouth Town Football club so the same supporters who follow them now can leave it to their offspring to hopefully carry on following the town . as most clubs previous committees may or may not have made mistakes with finances but it is not about the past mistakes as we all in life make them it must be to the future and the survival of one of Cornwalls great clubs , these are my own thoughts and not connected to my home town club , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Villains Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 If they get it, will Falmouth Town invest the whole of that £2.4M or use a wad of it to pay off their debts first? If they are not going to pay the debt off, WHY would they sell the ground now, might as well stay where they are!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Villains Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 So secretive? Why should they broadcast how much they owe? It's called being transparent...... This debt will have been built up over a number of seasons, at the AGM, finances (income and expenditure) along with other things are spoken about. One of those is the clubs financial standing ie What it's worth!! If the financial statement read out at the AGM was correct, WHY was it allowed to continue to get so bad! Did the club supporters attending the AGM not raise concerns as to the size of the problem? Every club should publish the mInutes to the AGM in the club house for all to see, UNLESS, they have something to hide!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Steady on john, it was only bit of banter with big al...not my fault you got nothing to cheer about! Dont take your frustrations out from the weekend on a forum thats full of banter & wind up merchants!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 I certainly have NEVER seen the minutes of the AGM displayed in the clubhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Why would Newquay & Godolphin merge ?. Newquay went through good and bad times for over 110 years when there was no other Senior club in town, nothing has changed, The Peppermints are still, and will always be, 'The Towns Club'. Newquay have a secure tenancy on Mount Wise for another 60 years, perhaps we can talk about it then, although medical science is going to have to come up with some miracles. I'm not sure how any SWPL club can run up debts in the tens of thousands, let alone £100k or £240k, someone, somewhere has either been paid far too much, or the clubs accountants need to start asking serious questions of those in charge. It will be a shame to see Bickland go, one of the last 'proper' grounds built anywhere. Be glad, be very glad, that Heaney was not or is not involved. Having said that, I'd double check who the developers are before accepting £2.4m. Good luck to Town, you might just need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Stuck in repeat mode again Nemisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldeneye Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Nenesis I was looking way into the future, when we're both pushing up the daisies! Anyway with all the recent troubles at Newquay perhaps Godolphin will launch a takeover bid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Stuck in repeat mode again Nemisis Déjà vu all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Is it coinsidence that the two clubs in question above (falmouth & newquay) have both been managed in previous years by the big spenders mr mewton & mr carey! Along with porthleven...all of which have experienced financial difficulties since their respective reigns! In 10 years I can see a senior club foldin. You cant blame managers, its the commitee members that need looking at letting go of money so freely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Villains Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 I certainly have NEVER seen the minutes of the AGM displayed in the clubhouse. I wonder why. It should be displayed for all those that couldn't be at the actual AGM. At an AGM, there should be a copy of last years AGM & this years agenda. Any questions that you have, if you attend, should be asked under Any Other Business (AOB) before the meeting is closed. Everything should normally be minuted, this is to avoid any misunderstanding after the meeting is closed. No reason why you can't ask for a copy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Hoop Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 At present figures do not add up. Sell for 2.4m but have to buy a LARGE chunk of land to house a sports centre and then one has to build it! 2.4m is not a lot to do all of this. Also remember the number of full time staff to employ. The major expense of any business is staff. I think you'll find the buyers of bickland have to find an alternative ground .I would hope that the people behind the sale will have the best intentions for the club and have earmarked a new location ! The sports centre that you mentioned would have to be a "community facility" ie local community groups and schools would have full use ,that way a whole lot of grants are available ,in fact when you mention the words "community facility" money is virtually thrown at such projects ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 If Callington can make it work within a School, so can Falmouth. Truro will probably end up at the College, everyone's a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Eddy Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 surely all clubs have to send financial report to ccfa before October each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 If Falmouth move in with the school, can't see the authorities allowing a licenced clubhouse on a school facility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denty01 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 If Falmouth move in with the school, can't see the authorities allowing a licenced clubhouse on a school facility. Why not Callington have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Move with the times. This forum is full of dinasours. A potential new ground is a good thing regardless of if its a ground share or within a school. It will only help the club progress and attract players that want to play for a new Modern set up whilst clearing Falmouth of any debt they have. Stop living in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 A school pitch will be nothing like Bickland. It will not provide good viewing positions (the sides will not have any terracingor cover) and there will probably be lengths of rope around the pitch edge and will be devoid of any atmosphere. It would be much better to not go within a school and rebuild on its own land. Remember the developer wants to build 75 houses probably selling for £200000 each and is only paying 2.4m for the land. I would certainly think that discussion is needed with them regarding financial issues. Remember that Falmouth Town have the upper hand on thgis sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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