Sticker Forever Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 After the Stickys 3-0 win at Wadebridge last night and looking at the foot of the table is there any chance of the Bridgers or Porthleven if either should finish bottom of the league being relegated? Two once great old South Western League clubs both with lovely grounds be a massive shame. Millbrook look to be fairly safe after their 1-0 at Dobwalls last night and Vospers have several games in hand and can bring in the likes of ex pro and Truro manager Lee Hodges etc. Could be a real danger of one of these once big clubs finishing bottom? Could the point Wadebridge got at home to Vospers a week or two ago with goals from subs Tom Marks and young Jack Rapseys spectacular 30 yarder in the 88th minute after being 0-2 down half time keep them in the league? Porthleven play their final game at Vospers on Saturday, what a six pointer!! The Bridgers go to Penzance and Millbrook next week. Even if Port don't get their point needed on Saturday they could still finish above Wadebridge if they have two heavy defeats 3 or 4 goals to nil and don't score and the 6 goal difference they have better at the moment gets turned around? Which clubs could be promoted if any to take the place of the bottom side? With Mousehole all but champions at the other end of the table it could well be an interesting last couple weeks of the season at the bottom?!? 14) MILLBROOK 28 20. -44 15) WADEBRIDGE 30 19 -51 16) PORTHLEVEN 31 19 -57 17) VOSPERS OV. 27 14 -65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 How Wadebridge struggle to attract anyone decent with the ground they have I do not no. It's been years since I watched St Blazey at Port. I remember a crowd of well over 1000 there when Port needed to beat St Blazey to win the South Western league. Port were 3 up at half time. Back came St Blazey to draw 3v3 and go on to win the league. 1 maybe 2 coaches of St Blazey fans went down there that night plus many others. What a night of football. Great little ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 I think the bottom West club will be involved in a relegation play off with the the bottom club in the East (Okehampton Argyle) Thats if two new applicants achieve a high enough finish and the grounds approved. I am not in favour of this one off game situation as at the end of the day one club will be relieved and the the other will be sent "on your bike" from the Peninsula League. If the the two divisions had there full number of clubs an automatic relegation would have ocurred and I understand a new ruling at the AGM may be passed to demote four clubs from the League next season. Probably due to the high number of clubs wishing to become members of the league although only two Cornish clubs showed interest this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticker Forever Posted April 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Yeah watched that game as well Paul. One of the best I've seen in Cornwall over the years. Two great teams that night. Quite agree, Bodieve and Gala Parc two of the top grounds in the county without doubt. Be a travisty if one had to go out the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 No it won't, they don't have enough points - simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticker Forever Posted April 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 Harsh but true Older!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 8 hours ago, Paul said: How Wadebridge struggle to attract anyone decent with the ground they have I do not no. It's been years since I watched St Blazey at Port. I remember a crowd of well over 1000 there when Port needed to beat St Blazey to win the South Western league. Port were 3 up at half time. Back came St Blazey to draw 3v3 and go on to win the league. 1 maybe 2 coaches of St Blazey fans went down there that night plus many others. What a night of football. Great little ground. I think Porthleven are still feeling the effects of those couple of Seasons to this day Paul, when a certain Mr.Carey was in charge down there paying huge sums of money to finish second Be Warned!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olimar Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Porthleven and Wadebridge have two of the finest grounds in that league IMO. Two fantastic set-ups and it's a real shame to see them struggling as i'd hate for either one to drop out of the West division. As stated, the bottom clubs from West and East (should both wish to remain in their respective leagues) will have a play off game to determine who goes down. There have been several applications for clubs into the East league but to my knowledge only a couple to the West including one team from Plymouth, Marjon's uni. They have passed ground grading for their 4g pitch which, although I'm an ardent fan of grass pitches, is quite a nice set up. They do also have a grass pitch available but this isn't their preferred choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishteddyboy Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 10 hours ago, Mike Odgers said: I think the bottom West club will be involved in a relegation play off with the the bottom club in the East (Okehampton Argyle) Thats if two new applicants achieve a high enough finish and the grounds approved. I am not in favour of this one off game situation as at the end of the day one club will be relieved and the the other will be sent "on your bike" from the Peninsula League. If the the two divisions had there full number of clubs an automatic relegation would have ocurred and I understand a new ruling at the AGM may be passed to demote four clubs from the League next season. Probably due to the high number of clubs wishing to become members of the league although only two Cornish clubs showed interest this year. Rumour has it, Okehampton are going to pull out rather having the record of being relegated on their achievement board . They agreed to struggle on and see the season out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 That would be the the easiest conclusion-Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 2 hours ago, cornishteddyboy said: Okehampton are going to pull out rather having the record of being relegated on their achievement board If that's the reason - they shouldn't be allowed! Absolute stupid reason and very shallow of the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 5 hours ago, cornishteddyboy said: Rumour has it, Okehampton are going to pull out rather having the record of being relegated on their achievement board . They agreed to struggle on and see the season out. Just been told CTB that perhaps what you have suggested isn't so and that things will become clear once the fixtures are complete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motherwontletmegoargyle Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 15 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: Just been told CTB that perhaps what you have suggested isn't so and that things will become clear once the fixtures are complete! Maybe involving another club in the league with Argyle in their name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, motherwontletmegoargyle said: Maybe involving another club in the league with Argyle in their name? Can't see why Plymouth should pull out considering they're on for promotion. Unless there's another Argyle in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Both clubs have great facilities and fine histories. I watched a midweek game between these two teams earlier in the season and I think Wadebridge had 9 teenagers on the pitch and Port 7. Two clubs giving youth a chance and they will be decent SWL players in a season or two I'm sure. Think Penryn had this situation a few seasons ago but the players stayed loyal to a great manager and bloke in Jeweller, had coaching from the legend Bruce Rioch and are a pleasure to watch now and still a very young team getting better and better. What's the divisions limit? There's only 17 teams in it anyway, 20 in the premier league. What's wrong with an 18 team division? Is there a need to relegate any team this season? Think both these clubs have always been a credit to this league and certainly the old SWL. Good luck to both clubs and well done for giving youngsters vital experience for the future seasons. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 The way I see it Mark is that The West division has 17 clubs (one short)--The East division is maximum 18 clubs Two clubs are entitled to join the SWPL through the Pyramid system -so two in one out. The (fairest way ) rules say a play off between the bottom two East/West League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Thanks Mike, hope you're well mate. Be a shame but sounds perfectly fair, clubs work hard to gain promotion as well. Seems a bit harsh the whole season and future of the unlucky club comes down to 90 minutes though? Maybe a two legged game home and away a few days apart would be a fairer conclusion? No arguing about the venue etc again either!! Cheers Mike. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Should go back to the old south western league, because in the south western peninsula league its always going to be who pays the biggest wages to the players and theres only a few teams who will ever win the league and Bodmin must be heads and shoulders above any other team in the league except possibly be St Austell its so unfair on other clubs in the league it would be lovely to see Wadebridge , Portheleven , Sticker , St Dennis , Mousehole , and Penzance in the league and the Devon teams go back to play in Devon . Wadebridge is 1 of the nicest grounds around and the people there are lovely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, 100%cornish said: because in the south western peninsula league its always going to be who pays the biggest wages to the players and theres only a few teams who will ever win the league Wasn't that what the SWL was pretty much too? Out of the last 13 champions, one would probably have to go back to Launceston to say it wasn't won by a big * spender! 1994–95 – Launceston 1995–96 – Truro City 1996–97 – Falmouth Town 1997–98 – Truro City 1998–99 – St Blazey 1999–2000 – Falmouth Town 2000–01 – St Blazey 2001–02 – St Blazey 2002–03 – St Blazey 2003–04 – St Blazey 2004–05 – St Blazey 2005–06 – Bodmin Town 2006–07 – St Blazey * although it depends what one defines as big! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%cornish Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Theres players being paid £500 a week while other players play for the love of the game if its Bodmin or St Austell which other wins the league they should be made to go up and test themselves against tougher opposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 2 hours ago, RAPPO said: Thanks Mike, hope you're well mate. Be a shame but sounds perfectly fair, clubs work hard to gain promotion as well. Seems a bit harsh the whole season and future of the unlucky club comes down to 90 minutes though? Maybe a two legged game home and away a few days apart would be a fairer conclusion? No arguing about the venue etc again either!! Cheers Mike. ? Not sure if I am in favour of a play off for survival it would be quite devastating for the loser to say goodbye to the league in 90 minutes. Where as a club in the relegation spot would have become accustomed over time to the fact of departing the division or league. Has it happened in other football leagues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 37 minutes ago, Mike Odgers said: Not sure if I am in favour of a play off for survival it would be quite devastating for the loser to say goodbye to the league in 90 minutes. Where as a club in the relegation spot would have become accustomed over time to the fact of departing the division or league. Has it happened in other football leagues? You might not have to worry Mike. As I've written above " that things will become clear once the fixtures are complete!" It might be even sooner - the suggestion is to keep your eye on the SWPL website this weekend and that we will be surprised! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroni Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Wadebridge WAS a lovely ground as bulldozers ready to move in!!!!!!! Such a shame!!!!!!? Lot of hard work and FUNDING!!! Gone!!!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Mead Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Regarding a play-off to decide which Club is relegated, I think it should be viewed as a chance for one club to avoid relegation rather than the other club being doomed: in slightly different circumstances, they would both be relegated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 15 hours ago, Dave Deacon said: You might not have to worry Mike. As I've written above " that things will become clear once the fixtures are complete!" It might be even sooner - the suggestion is to keep your eye on the SWPL website this weekend and that we will be surprised! I read that as a club may be withdrawing from the Peninsula league for next seasom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I've seen the plans for the new stadium and they're pretty impressive!!! It'll be just across the road and the facilities will be something the whole community can enjoy on a day to day basis regardless of weather etc. Hence why Wadebridge need to stay in the league!!!! Agreed it will be a shame to see the current ground go but the new one will be an even better place to play and visit I would imagine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 All that money spent on levelling the pitch and spanking new facilities for just over a decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 No relegation from west division this year according to cswpl Twitter ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 On the league's forum : Relegation from East & West Divisions:Okehampton Argyle AFC have informed the league that they do not wish to participate in the playoff match allowed for under the league rules. They therefore will be relegated to the Devon & Exeter League which means that no team will be relegated from the West Division this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJW Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 On 29/04/2016 at 06:47, Peroni said: Wadebridge WAS a lovely ground as bulldozers ready to move in!!!!!!! Such a shame!!!!!!? Lot of hard work and FUNDING!!! Gone!!!!!? On 29/04/2016 at 14:48, Willow Tree said: All that money spent on levelling the pitch and spanking new facilities for just over a decade Perhaps the funders, Football Foundation or Sport England or whoever, might ask for a bit of a refund to spend on other clubs who might need it. To get the funding for work on our ground, we had to commit to 25 years and fair enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroni Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Apparently sold to developers for SEVERAL million!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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