SWPL - Boxing Day 2016

[Dave Deacon]

 

Monday December 26

 

CARLSBERG SOUTH WEST PENINSULA LEAGUE

PREMIER DIVISION

Camelford 2-1 Bodmin Town

Exmouth Town 5-1 Cullompton Rangers

Helston Athletic 2-7 Falmouth Town

Launceston 0-0 Callington Town

Newquay 0-1 Godolphin Atlantic

Plymouth Parkway 1-1 Ivybridge Town

St Austell 5-1 St Blazey

Torpoint Athletic 0-3 Saltash United

 

DIVISION ONE (EAST)

Alphington 2-3 Exwick Villa

Appledore 3-2 Torridgeside

Brixham 1-3 Galmpton United

Liverton United 1-2 Bovey Tracey

Newton Abbot Spurs 2-3 Teignmouth

Sidmouth Town 4-0 Budleigh Salterton

 

DIVISION ONE (WEST)

Bude Town 1-0 Holsworthy

Elburton Villa 2-2 Plymstock United

Illogan RBL 2-0 Penryn Athletic

Liskeard Athletic 0-5 Dobwalls

Penzance 0-6 Mousehole

Sticker 2-0 St Dennis

Vospers Oak Villa 2-2 Millbrook

Wendron United 1-3 Porthleven

[midlandlilywhite]

St Austell (1) 5 St Blazey (1) 1

Nice to beat our old rivals again but credit to them for holding us to 1-1 at half time. Unfortunately I don't know the St Blazey scorer but St Austell's evidently were Bragg, Goldsworthy, Chambers, Eddy and Prynn. Once again five different scorers indicates the strength of the team. Attendance was 385. 

Great to see that Slates came on as a sub, despite all the rubbish stated by some people on the Forum this week. 

Happy New Year to all at Poltair and also to the sensible contributors on the Forum. 

Congratulations to Camelford on their amazing 2-1 win over Bodmin. 

[hoppit]

31 minutes ago, midlandlilywhite said:

St Austell (1) 5 St Blazey (1) 1

Nice to beat our old rivals again but credit to them for holding us to 1-1 at half time. Unfortunately I don't know the St Blazey scorer but St Austell's evidently were Bragg, Goldsworthy, Chambers, Eddy and Prynn. Once again five different scorers indicates the strength of the team. Attendance was 385. 

Great to see that Slates came on as a sub, despite all the rubbish stated by some people on the Forum this week. 

Happy New Year to all at Poltair and also to the sensible contributors on the Forum. 

Congratulations to Camelford on their amazing 2-1 win over Bodmin. 

Camelford 2-1 Bodmin  

Shock result on paper but not on the park. Camels deserved the win . Don't think some of the Bodmin players know the meaning of local derby didn't show much  enthusiasm and got what they deserved,can't help feeling they need a few cornish boys in their squad. 

[Marcus Grose]

26 minutes ago, hoppit said:

Camelford 2-1 Bodmin  

Shock result on paper but not on the park. Camels deserved the win . Don't think some of the Bodmin players know the meaning of local derby didn't show much  enthusiasm and got what they deserved,can't help feeling they need a few cornish boys in their squad. 

^^ THIS ^^

[THE BALD ONE]

Parkway 1   v  Ivybridge 1

Parkway down to 10 men after about 4 or 5 mins. Keeper took out the forward... A few minutes later ,Ivybridge who had a very weakened team today scored through a penalty. What should have been a very winnable fixture turned into an uphill battle. Parkway scored late on in the first half with a Paul Heveran free kick. The second half saw 10 man Parkway huff and puff but to no avail. To be honest they could still be there now and would probably have not scored. This was a completely different performance from the recent visit to Falmouth.  With the keeper now having to serve a 3 match ban ( I believe  ) and a few other key players missing for the next few big games , looks like promotion is unlikely......... just my opinion. The team looked too have lost all shape by the end of todays game and I do hope they can improve very soon. Next stop Cullompton away , which will be very tough. 

My man of the match was Ivybidge's Joe Truelove. Played with passion and grit. 

 

Cmon Parkway.

 

[Uwdi Krugg]

Was also present at the Camelford v Bodmin game today.

First of all, before examining the magnitude of what most will label 'a shock result', I think the Camelford side deserve a very well done for providing a sterling team performance today, every one of them put a shift in and they never lost the desire to come out on top. They also played some attractive football, this was no smash and grab job.

As for Bodmin, there will be many theories why they got beat today, the defeat is a costly one and the inquest will go on well into the night.

I don't buy the view that they weren't up for it, the Bodmin bench had a fire lit under them throughout the game and I genuinely thought they treated Camelford with due respect.

If anything could be tagged as a reason why they failed today I think it was because they were trying too hard and simply rushing things. Too often they played the wrong hurried pass and snatched at their chances, they also seemed to be playing a high defensive line against a side intent on hitting them on the break (which worked incredibly well for Camelford).

Billy Hopcroft was up front all on his own for an hour and ball retention in the final third was minimal. Camelford enjoyed far too much easy-possession and clear cut chances for Bodmin dried up accordingly. The introduction of Adam Carter with half an hour to go certainly improved things and a genuine feeling that Camelford were starting to struggle spread around the ground.

The breakaway winning goal for Camelford was a hammer blow for Bodmin, the kind of goal that impacts upon a season, will it prove crucial come the Spring, personally I think it will.

An entertaining match all in all with good quality football on show, thought the referee and linesmen also had good games. Despite the high stakes it was never a dirty game.

Glad I went to see it really, think it may have a lot of relevance on 'who gets what' come silverware time, good football match.

[midlandlilywhite]

23 minutes ago, Uwdi Krugg said:

Was also present at the Camelford v Bodmin game today.

First of all, before examining the magnitude of what most will label 'a shock result', I think the Camelford side deserve a very well done for providing a sterling team performance today, every one of them put a shift in and they never lost the desire to come out on top. They also played some attractive football, this was no smash and grab job.

As for Bodmin, there will be many theories why they got beat today, the defeat is a costly one and the inquest will go on well into the night.

I don't buy the view that they weren't up for it, the Bodmin bench had a fire lit under them throughout the game and I genuinely thought they treated Camelford with due respect.

If anything could be tagged as a reason why they failed today I think it was because they were trying too hard and simply rushing things. Too often they played the wrong hurried pass and snatched at their chances, they also seemed to be playing a high defensive line against a side intent on hitting them on the break (which worked incredibly well for Camelford).

Billy Hopcroft was up front all on his own for an hour and ball retention in the final third was minimal. Camelford enjoyed far too much easy-possession and clear cut chances for Bodmin dried up accordingly. The introduction of Adam Carter with half an hour to go certainly improved things and a genuine feeling that Camelford were starting to struggle spread around the ground.

The breakaway winning goal for Camelford was a hammer blow for Bodmin, the kind of goal that impacts upon a season, will it prove crucial come the Spring, personally I think it will.

An entertaining match all in all with good quality football on show, thought the referee and linesmen also had good games. Despite the high stakes it was never a dirty game.

Glad I went to see it really, think it may have a lot of relevance on 'who gets what' come silverware time, good football match.

Another good report from you. 

[Uwdi Krugg]

28 minutes ago, midlandlilywhite said:

Another good report from you. 

Thank you midlandlilywhite.

Hopefully I can 'join in a bit' and try to add to some of the excellent reports already posted from people on this forum, its great to hear from the various games around the league. 

[razor61]

Sticker 2 St Dennis 0  (M.Lloyd, J.Bowyer)  On and On they go!  Now 14 points clear at the top!

[herbie777]

Watched elburton vs plymstock finished 2 each quite a good game actually plenty of fiesty tackles and in the end a fair result

[Team Rep]

Camelford  2  -  1 Bodmin. (1 - 1 HT)

Watched this match today as well, in front of a good crowd. Thought Camelford matched Bodmin all over the pitch and came away deserved winners. Whilst Bodmin won this derby easily last year, perhaps they thought they would have another comfortable win before they started. But if anything comes out of Camelford's matches, the one thing most people comment on, is that their players don't give in easily, no matter who they are playing, they will fight until the final whistle!

Well done to the Camels, an excellent three points.

Good luck to all the league teams in 2017.

[Guest]

St Austell were dominant in the first half against St Blazey and it was a bit of a turn up when the teams went in level at 1-1 at half time. The Lillywhites dominated the game and but for better shooting could easily have doubled their score. Dave Painter made a few good saves but the overall picture for St Blazey looks bleak and will definitely need a reult on Friday.

[St John]

Having watched Saltash beat Torpoint comfortably today and with Bodmin losing, I'd say say that the league is between Saltash and Tavistock. League winners normally have the best goal difference and only Saltash and Tavi are competing for that accolade. Saltash have great togetherness but Tavi have Glynn Hobbs in good physical shape. Would be nice for the budget critics if the Ashes won it, but nobody would begrudge the lambs lifting the title either.

[cornishrambler]

Having had a chuckle at people writing Bodmin off in December (surely only a fool would) Bodmin went to Camelford with, in my opinion a weakened side, without the likes of Nick Milton, Mark Berry and Charlie Hardcastle just to name a few. Yes the bodmin performance was poor. Some would say the tactical decisions may have cost them the game. A centre back who hadnt played there all season been thrown in, when you have Simmonds sat on the bench. In my opinion causes immediate uncertainty in any back line that isn't a consistent one. Jake Ash been played in the centre of midfield, as much as this boy is a class above the rest, he clearly belongs in a back line marshalling a game. Then the bizarre decision to have Lance Bailey playing upfront? With Adam Carter on the bench. Lance is an excellent player, but throwing a man into a front line when no one is going to be aware of the runs he makes etc will cause yet more uncertainty. Especially when you have Adam Carter sat on the bench. 

Bodmin will bounce back from this in my opinion, i've watched alot of cornish football recently and Bodmin will still be challening right to the end. I would say its still a 3 horse race. It will be very close come May.

[St John]

Threw a line, just waiting for the Chairman, Leeds Utd, king of the double exclamation marks to have a nibble. Must be crying in his pino colada, or some other Eric Bristow type pinkey fingered drink. Looks like he's got Keyboarditits.

[a little bit of a dinho]

10 hours ago, midlandlilywhite said:

Happy New Year to all at Poltair and also to the sensible contributors on the Forum. 

Are you saying that all the contributors on the Forum are sensible?

Or simply wishing a Happy New Year to only those you deem to be sensible (most likely anyone who shares the same viewpoint as you). 

Feels like a pretty snobbish and condescending thing to write mate.

 

[leedsunited]

7 hours ago, St John said:

Threw a line, just waiting for the Chairman, Leeds Utd, king of the double exclamation marks to have a nibble. Must be crying in his pino colada, or some other Eric Bristow type pinkey fingered drink. Looks like he's got Keyboarditits.

Throw as many lines as you want, you will not get a bite!! Well done to Reg & his gang, wanted the game more than us yesterday. We will still be there come May,. Two games in hand, two points behind big spending St.Austell, don't panic for us guys! I would say that win for Camelford has ensured their safety, & with Ivybridge drawing at Parkway what a fine result for their relegation worries. Did hear yesterday that Parkway are going to re-sign St.Blazey keeper David Painter,  in my opinion a very good goalkeeper. As for my variety of drinks I consume St.John I have you know I do drink strong drinks as well, like yesterday I was on Strongbow with sliced lemon

[St John]

1 hour ago, leedsunited said:

Throw as many lines as you want, you will not get a bite!! Well done to Reg & his gang, wanted the game more than us yesterday. We will still be there come May,. Two games in hand, two points behind big spending St.Austell, don't panic for us guys! I would say that win for Camelford has ensured their safety, & with Ivybridge drawing at Parkway what a fine result for their relegation worries. Did hear yesterday that Parkway are going to re-sign St.Blazey keeper David Painter,  in my opinion a very good goalkeeper. As for my variety of drinks I consume St.John I have you know I do drink strong drinks as well, like yesterday I was on Strongbow with sliced lemon

Good tactic with the lemon, would have been easy to explain away the sour face!

[Bobjfh]

10 hours ago, cornishrambler said:

Having had a chuckle at people writing Bodmin off in December (surely only a fool would) Bodmin went to Camelford with, in my opinion a weakened side, without the likes of Nick Milton, Mark Berry and Charlie Hardcastle just to name a few. Yes the bodmin performance was poor. Some would say the tactical decisions may have cost them the game. A centre back who hadnt played there all season been thrown in, when you have Simmonds sat on the bench. In my opinion causes immediate uncertainty in any back line that isn't a consistent one. Jake Ash been played in the centre of midfield, as much as this boy is a class above the rest, he clearly belongs in a back line marshalling a game. Then the bizarre decision to have Lance Bailey playing upfront? With Adam Carter on the bench. Lance is an excellent player, but throwing a man into a front line when no one is going to be aware of the runs he makes etc will cause yet more uncertainty. Especially when you have Adam Carter sat on the bench. 

Bodmin will bounce back from this in my opinion, i've watched alot of cornish football recently and Bodmin will still be challening right to the end. I would say its still a 3 horse race. It will be very close come May.

Cornishrambler - I think you are right that it is far too early to write off Bodmin with the squad of excellent players that they have, however having watched Saltash and Bodmin (Tavistock don't have the depth of players, in my opinion, and St Austell / Parkway have lost too many points that they shouldn't have) - Saltash have to be odds on favourites.

As for your assessment of the game - I feel you are being a bit disingenuous towards Camelford, who were missing their club captain Dan Balsden and midfielder Mikey Steel - they also had a centre back playing midfield, a midfielder player playing striker and a striker playing winger - so Bodmin were not necessarily playing a full strength Camelford. Camelford also had a Leftback playing his first game for them. In regards to your view of tactical decisions by Bodmin - bearing in mind you have one of the most experienced and successful managers at this level, I believe the CB has actually been playing in the top tier of Swedish football so should be able to cope with any position in the SWPL (may be wrong on that but only what I was told), Jake Ash has played the holding midfielder role on countless occasions - really hope he is okay as he took a soft tumble but by some freak accident ended up unconscious and looking very unsteady after the incident. Simmonds and Carter are both class acts, but both also deserve some down time - and both played plenty during the game to make a difference..

The reason Camelford won, other than playing good football, is that Reg can ask any Camelford player to play in any position or spend time on the bench and know that he will get 100% from them, win loose or draw. They all play for their team mates, manager and club, they socialise together after matches and have a fantastic team ethos. On the other hand the Bodmin players mindset is summed up by two quotes - prior to the game, said by Bodmin assistant manager to one of their players 'when we get to 2 nil up we tuck in tight and hold for a bit then push on' - so I guess he had already decided on the win. Second quote 'This result was coming, we were poor last week, we have too many prima donna's who don't play for the badge, think they can drink the day before a game, pull out of challenges and just turn up to win - you play Camelford here and you have to roll your sleeves up and get stuck in - we didn't' - said without a single expletive by the unhappy but gracious Bodmin manager in the Camelford bar.

Great result for Camelford, next week against St Blazey is a big game, and I am sure Bodmin will have a few points to make next week against a good Tiverton Reserves side.

[hoppit]

Bodmin are a very good team apart from the loss of 3 points this result may do them more good than harm, they must know now that you need to be on the case  every single game, if you are not you can lose to any team.Bodmin were not

awful yesterday Camels played very well and in Bobby Hopkinson got as good a player as there is in the league, he totally bossed the game and with the kids running  around for him it's a formidable combination. Bodmin may have lost the battle but certainly not the war.

[midlandlilywhite]

3 hours ago, Keith B said:

Lighten up sir - banter is at the heart of this forum.  

Strongbow - with a slice of lemon ???? An insult to everyone in Somerset and cider apple growers everywhere leeds. 

Banter - exactly. 

[Guest]

Leeds is very quiet!

[midlandlilywhite]

3 minutes ago, Willow Tree said:

Leeds is very quiet!

Probably got the "HUMPH" at Camelford. 

[TheolderIgetthebetterIwas]

7 hours ago, leedsunited said:

 Two games in hand, two points behind big spending St.Austell,

So Bodmin never spent a penny every year they won the league (!)

Funniest thing posted on here in a long time.

What you silly sods pay these players for one step above mickey mouse is unbelievable - and idiotic.

[panda]

Watched Torpoint v Saltash yesterday and was impressed by the football plyed by both sides.The difference between the sides was Saltashes clinical finishing and also their determination to win 50 /50 challenges.Also thought the referee had a good game. He used common sense and only used his cards when absolutely necessary. All in all a good advert for local football.

[scousemouse]

9 hours ago, leedsunited said:

Throw as many lines as you want, you will not get a bite!! Well done to Reg & his gang, wanted the game more than us yesterday. We will still be there come May,. Two games in hand, two points behind big spending St.Austell, don't panic for us guys! I would say that win for Camelford has ensured their safety, & with Ivybridge drawing at Parkway what a fine result for their relegation worries. Did hear yesterday that Parkway are going to re-sign St.Blazey keeper David Painter,  in my opinion a very good goalkeeper. As for my variety of drinks I consume St.John I have you know I do drink strong drinks as well, like yesterday I was on Strongbow with sliced lemon

Thanks to leedsunited, I am sat in the armchair with a broken arm. Ha Ha, so Bodmin Town don't spend big money.

[Touch line pro]

On 26/12/2016 at 14:55, Monsoon said:

^^ THIS ^^

 

On 26/12/2016 at 14:55, Monsoon said:

^^ THIS ^^

Never saw this coming to be honest but well done to Reg and all at Camelford. Never go there and think you won't be given a proper game by players who actually want to play for the club.

[cornishrambler]

Having been a long time follower of lower leagues of cornish football in the likes of duchy etc ive never really had much affiliation with any of the SWPL top leagues. It is only really this season i have taken more of an interest around SWPL and the step above, to take a look at the constant argument of promotion/relegation.

Ive been a long time reader of this forum and it seems to me the majority of threads turn into a slanging match of how much this club or that club spends with Bodmin and St Austell been the 2 biggest targets. Surely these 2 clubs must be able to afford the outlay through sponsors etc. It seems this is the excuse every club uses when losing or beating bodmin or st austell for that matter.

In my day nobdoy was interested in who was been paid what it was about the players been more determined to compete at the highest level possible, money will ruin football and the fans and players that seem to only concentrate on the money will start that downfall. Maybe we should encourage these so called bigger sides to build a better club so that one day they can try and compete at a higher level instead of soending most of the time moaning about them.

[TheolderIgetthebetterIwas]

Money will ruin football - really (!)

That was done when Sky took over the running of football.....many years ago now.

And it soon slipped down to this level, and is even worse today.

[cat weasel]

10 hours ago, Keith B said:

True older - none of them are worth what they get paid today.

In today's professional game is anyone really worth £300k a week? When you compare that to a firefighter who risk their lives everyday or doctors who save lives on a daily basis and our armed forces who are sent away for months fighting wars for our benefit these are the people that deserve the best wages!!! I'm all for players getting expenses because mousehole to Plymouth for example is a hell of a journey and takes up a whole day but some of the wages I've heard about for local football would pay a half decent mortgage but we live in modern times and it's not going to change so we all just have to live with it 

[Dave Deacon]

Just confirmed:-

"Carlos Tevez became the latest high-profile international player to join the Chinese Super League when Shanghai Shenhua confirmed the signing of the Argentine striker from his boyhood club Boca Juniors on Thursday.

"Shanghai Greenland Shenhua FC reached a transfer agreement with Argentina Club Atletico Boca Juniors. Carlos Alberto Tevez is officially joined Shanghai Shenhua," the club said in a statement on its website.

Although no financial details of the deal were released, media reports have suggested that the Chinese club paid 84 million euros ($87.65 million) for Tevez, who returned to Argentina last year after spells in England and Italy."

"Tevez is also in line to become the sport's highest paid player with the striker reportedly earning around $753,000 per week on a two-year contract with Shanghai Shenhua."

ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS! 

 

[cornishrambler]

Is the bigger problem that we have come to accept the silly wages paid at this level and continue to turn up and fund the way clubs are being run, is it time there was a monitored cap on wages or expenses at this level? Im not slating any club, as i stated in an earlier post, i recently become interested in the promotion/relegation pyramid system at this level and i suppose this is all part of it.

[Outsider]

Is there no limit on the amount of  "expenses"  that can be paid?

Is the SWPL supposed to be an amateur league and shouldn't paid players be registered as professionals?

In Cornish Cricket I believe a club can only have one professional player.

[quiksilver]

1 hour ago, Outsider said:

Is there no limit on the amount of  "expenses"  that can be paid?

Is the SWPL supposed to be an amateur league and shouldn't paid players be registered as professionals?

In Cornish Cricket I believe a club can only have one professional player.

There is something inbetween amateur and professional, its called semi-professional

[stevieb]

On 27/12/2016 at 14:51, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

So Bodmin never spent a penny every year they won the league (!)

Funniest thing posted on here in a long time.

What you silly sods pay these players for one step above mickey mouse is unbelievable - and idiotic.

I won't name the club but a few seasons back I watched a senior cup tie away fixture , the bus we travelled on broke down so several of the supporters were in the bar enjoying refreshments as you do , my mate noticed the brown envelopes being handed out , being in good spirits he tapped one of the players on the shoulder and asked what he was up to , he was told what has it to do with you ? My mate quick as a flash said he worked for the tax office and was enquiring if tax was paid , the player scuttled off to his mates and there were a lot of worried faces looking in his direction  until we left , still makes me chuckle even now .

 

[TheolderIgetthebetterIwas]

The liability for tax sits with the club...not the players.

That's why a few of the big payers from a few years ago are now struggling.

And if you dispute the sums from the tax man and can't come up with a plausible reply - it's doubled (!)

And that has happened to a couple as well.