SWPL - Saturday 19 January 2019

[leedsunited]

40 minutes ago, Iand said:

3 down after 20mins , all 3 goals from headers, shocking defending. Then fault well and pulled  back 2 goals and nearly equalised. Callum McGee by far Blazeys best player on the day was crudely hacked down just before half time forcing him to be substituted which seemed to knock the stuffing out of them. Gave away a sloppy goal just before halftime and frankly never looked liked turning it around in the 2nd half. Blazey badly missed Rogersinfulence in midfield and Walker and Clifton at the back.

Two big local clubs Penzance & St.Blazey both having a real fall from grace. To be in the West Division is a bitter enough pill for their respective officer's to 'bear' I am sure, but to see where they both are in the league in the bottom half is a huge fall from grace from where they once were 

[Paul]

Penzance deserved their win yesterday. Despite gifting 3 headers in the first 20 minutes St Blazey came back with a contender for goal of the season and another good strike to make it 3v2. That hard work was undone just before half time from another floated free kick. Despite the best efforts in the second half, St Blazey couldnt score and Penzance wrapped it up late on. 

We return to Blaize Park for the first time since November 24th on Saturday looking to get the double over Mousehole. 

[TheolderIgetthebetterIwas]

3 hours ago, We Two said:

Unfortunately several clubs are the architects of their own demise, when they pay big money that they can ill afford, to gain temporary success, and then fall by the wayside when the money runs out and their star men leave.
This will continue to happen until clubs bite the bullet and refuse to pay large sums to people who have no loyalty to the club.
It could be fairly said that you can't blame players for taking the money offered to them, it could also be fairly said, where are those players when the club really needs them, as is often said on this forum " you can't BUY loyalty ".
That brings us back to the original theme that money will buy short term success and long term problems.
Ask any of the former South Western League and Peninsula Premier league sides now playing in the lower leagues what caused their demotion, the chances are that an honest answer would be finance.
Look on your club as a business and it's not rocket science to realise that your business will not have much of a decent future if you are spending more than you are earning.
Being prudent with your finances is not the answer to all of footballs woes by a long chalk, but it doesn't half help.
Just in case someone thinks this post is a snide dig at any particular club, thats not so, just a perpective on the state of our local football.
The post above by Daveblase63 says it all really

It is rarely the clubs who put the money in, rather individuals who finance, and attract finance to the club they have chosen to be at.

They bring in the money players from all over... "the money" men, we all know who they are.

They do bring the short term success that a lot of clubs buy into.

What they also do is break the loyalty of the local players who usually have supported that club for a good few years, they are no longer wanted so leave.

When the money dries up and the clubs need that loyal group to step back up to the plate it is too late, they do not come back, the club has broken that bond and it does not return in a hurry.

That is when the demise sets in, and it's very difficult to build trust back up again with local players, it takes years to get your local lads back on side again...if you ever do.

 

[Fanfare]

9 hours ago, Outsider said:

South West Peninsula Football League is the best run league in the South West.

I'd be inclined to say further than the south west. In fact if there is another league in the whole country that is run better than the SWPL then that is impressive!

[We Two]

We must agree with much of what Older says in his post, but in accepting those comments another question arises which is, if someone other than the club itself is financing the players wages, why have some clubs ended up in the financial doldrums with all the additional income that success should have brought them ?
Increased gate money, money over the bar, food sales, etc etc, should all have improved the financial standing of so called successful clubs who now find themselves in leagues below their formerly unsuccessful counterparts who were not prepared, or were perhaps unable, to fund short term success at the expense of their clubs future wellbeing.
It's a slippery slope that teams that have bought success in the past now find themselves on.
Again this post is not intended to have a go at anyone in particular, just an honest opinion of how easy it is for clubs to slide down the pecking order, if they try spending more than they are earning, and rely on an individual to finance their success.

[Ian Pethick]

 

7 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

It is rarely the clubs who put the money in, rather individuals who finance, and attract finance to the club they have chosen to be at.

They bring in the money players from all over... "the money" men, we all know who they are.

They do bring the short term success that a lot of clubs buy into.

What they also do is break the loyalty of the local players who usually have supported that club for a good few years, they are no longer wanted so leave.

When the money dries up and the clubs need that loyal group to step back up to the plate it is too late, they do not come back, the club has broken that bond and it does not return in a hurry.

That is when the demise sets in, and it's very difficult to build trust back up again with local players, it takes years to get your local lads back on side again...if you ever do.

 

Liskeard seem to be a club that are rebuilding the links to the town after years in the doldrums. After pursuing failed policies under various managers of bringing in poor players from the Plymouth area, the side that is now top of the league are mostly local based and out of the schools in the area.

[TheolderIgetthebetterIwas]

15 minutes ago, Way Of The Park said:

 

Liskeard seem to be a club that are rebuilding the links to the town after years in the doldrums. After pursuing failed policies under various managers of bringing in poor players from the Plymouth area, the side that is now top of the league are mostly local based and out of the schools in the area.

And what...20 odd years to rebuild a local base again(?)

1 hour ago, We Two said:

We must agree with much of what Older says in his post, but in accepting those comments another question arises which is, if someone other than the club itself is financing the players wages, why have some clubs ended up in the financial doldrums with all the additional income that success should have brought them ?
Increased gate money, money over the bar, food sales, etc etc, should all have improved the financial standing of so called successful clubs who now find themselves in leagues below their formerly unsuccessful counterparts who were not prepared, or were perhaps unable, to fund short term success at the expense of their clubs future wellbeing.
It's a slippery slope that teams that have bought success in the past now find themselves on.
Again this post is not intended to have a go at anyone in particular, just an honest opinion of how easy it is for clubs to slide down the pecking order, if they try spending more than they are earning, and rely on an individual to finance their success.

Clubs also put money in, but when the money man leaves is when the problems start.

They now have to fund it all. 

[Ian Pethick]

1 hour ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said:

And what...20 odd years to rebuild a local base again(?)

Clubs also put money in, but when the money man leaves is when the problems start.

They now have to fund it all. 

Unfortunately, yes. 20 years is what it has taken. Unless a benefactor appears from somewhere, it could take someone like Blazey this long to come back. 

As an aside, do fear for post Darren Gilbert Bodmin. Only when he has gone will people realise how far above their weight they have been punching. This has been against a backdrop of minimal support and interest from the town. Perhaps another example of a lack of connection with the locals 

[Rayvon]

1 hour ago, Way Of The Park said:

Unfortunately, yes. 20 years is what it has taken. Unless a benefactor appears from somewhere, it could take someone like Blazey this long to come back. 

As an aside, do fear for post Darren Gilbert Bodmin. Only when he has gone will people realise how far above their weight they have been punching. This has been against a backdrop of minimal support and interest from the town. Perhaps another example of a lack of connection with the locals 

Not forgetting the colourful language coming from the touchline. 

[Adlestrop]

Spot on,Rayvon: I recently met one of the best and most respected centre half of the 70s(himself no Angel):he told me he took his grandson to a S.W League game

and was forced to leave after 30 mns because of *********'s  continuous filthy language.

[theboyweeso]

SALTASH UNITED 4-0 ELBURTON VILLA

A decent game of football on a sticky pitch at Kimberley. Elburton came into the game with intent and pressed all over the field and never seemed to tire which is a credit to their fitness levels and determination. After 90 minutes though it was certainly a case of chances taken that was the difference in the game and the ashes seemed to handle the flow of the game well. 

Saltash could have been 1-0 up early doors when midfielder Shaun Cleary was judged to have been tripped inside the box by Villa defender Ryan Lowton and after just 7 minutes played ref Neil Lane pointed to the spot. Up stepped Ryan Richards whose penalty cannoned off the outside of the post to Jack Dixon's left and out for a goal kick. 

Ten minutes later on 17" Chris Menhenick's floating free kick towards the edge of the six yard box from 30 yards out causes confusion in the Villa defence and meets the head of a defender which unluckily hits the back of the net. 1-0.

Another ten gone on 27" and typically as I went searching for a stray match ball, apparently a long ball played over the top just in front of Sam Hughes and the Saltash striker makes no mistake to slot his shot past Jack Dixon. 2-0. 

The first 25 mins of the second half Elburton seemed to step up a gear and it really was a case of the next goal would be vital then on 70 minutes Danny Lewis converts a powerful strike after a nod down from Sam Leary to give Saltash some breathing space. 3-0

Credit to Elburton who still never seemed to give up. Teigan Rosenquest looked like their biggest danger with his pace down the right flank and cutting inside as Jake Miller seemed to drop into a deeper position leaving Nick Aplin alone up front. 

After 80 minutes or so however it seemed like all the points were going the ashes way as Ryan Lowton receives his second yellow of the game for a foul on Danny Lewis. His first caution appeared to be for dissent after just 19 minutes played. With Villa down to ten men Lee Coxon replaces Nick Aplin and begin to attempt to preserve the game at 3-0. 

This was in vain however as after 90"+1 the ball falls to the feet of Ryan Richards on the edge of the penalty area who fires an unstoppable shot at goal which pings off the underside of the crossbar and into the back of the net for his first ashes goal since 8th December. He's found his shooting boots again!

All the best to Saltash's Lewis Russell who was taken off early with a facial injury and seems has broken his jaw. His second injury of the season after an ankle injury at Bere Alston left him out for a long while.

Saltash: 1 Rickard, 14 Sargison (3 Martindale, 50') , 17 Menhenick, 4 Russell (12 Leary, 20'), 18 Cleary, 6 Trott, 7 Maddison (15 Edwards,?), 8 Farrant, 9 Hughes, 10 Richards (c).   Subs not used 21 Summerfield, 22 Thomson.

Elburton: 1 Dixon, 2 Smith, 3 Carter, 4 Rundle, 5 Corben, 6 Lowton, 7 Rosenquest, 8 J.Tattersall, 9. Aplin (c) (15 Coxon, 84"), 10 Miller, 11 Smale.  subs not used 12 S.Tattersall, 14 Mann, 16 Williams, 17 McClements.

Ref Neil Lane, Attendance 109.

[SteveM]

On 20/01/2019 at 10:22, Daveblase63 said:

Unlucky St Blazey. Did anybody make the trip and how was the performance?

Strangely, despite conceding four goals in the first half I thought both teams were quite evenly matched to begin with. The first three goals were all headers from crosses, the fourth was a shot from a cross, so clearly work needed in defence. Going forward St Blazey looked quite good and Calum McGee scored what is undoubtedly the best goal I've seen this season.

There is no doubt that heads dropped in the second half and Penzance were clearly the stronger side, but I wonder if we'd have seen that performance if they hadn't lost confidence from the first half.

I reckon there were about 10 - 15 away fans.