le boss Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 If stories are true, Falmouth Town have been fined £870 for bad behaviour. Very sad to hear seeing the officials and management have been doing a great job both on and off the field. Perhaps being a small club with no glamour is the way to go - would rather have no history than bad history. Unbelievable Jeff!!! kevin richards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Bad Fox Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 I'd say its worth every penny. Falmouth won the senior cup that day, with the flares, support and atmosphere being the 12th man. Im sure with the club being fined, it wont happen again. I for one, would take an £870 fine for some silverware at my club. Some clubs pay that sort of money to 1/2 players each month 😱 mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 The fine is completely reasonable if somewhat on the low side. Flairs are a proven risk to life and/or life changing injuries. As well as a substantial fine for the club, the perpetrators should be charged with endangerment and face a criminal court. While I have been impressed with Falmouth's Phoenix like rise from the flames and the majority of the F troop, their inability to keep a minority of troublemakers under control (or out of the club via banning orders) has led to the current fine and will lead to more if they don’t get a grip. 1 hour ago, The Big Bad Fox said: I'd say its worth every penny. Falmouth won the senior cup that day, with the flares, support and atmosphere being the 12th man. Im sure with the club being fined, it wont happen again. I for one, would take an £870 fine for some silverware at my club. Some clubs pay that sort of money to 1/2 players each month 😱 Loss of points or ejection from competitions might just have some effects on some of these deep pocketed idiots! Unfortunate though it would be for the genuine fans and team. We Two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 I think the flares🧨 and fireworks 💥 are a thing of the past. mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Bruegel the Elder said: The fine is completely reasonable if somewhat on the low side. Flairs are a proven risk to life and/or life changing injuries. As well as a substantial fine for the club, the perpetrators should be charged with endangerment and face a criminal court. While I have been impressed with Falmouth's Phoenix like rise from the flames and the majority of the F troop, their inability to keep a minority of troublemakers under control (or out of the club via banning orders) has led to the current fine and will lead to more if they don’t get a grip. Loss of points or ejection from competitions might just have some effects on some of these deep pocketed idiots! Unfortunate though it would be for the genuine fans and team. What a nanny state we live in!! mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 We know who the guilty parties are , 2 people out of 500 (number of Facebook members) have tainted things a tad but we will have a whip round to cover the fine and move on ! mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, BIG AL said: What a nanny state we live in!! Easy to say when you don’t have charred flesh! 1 hour ago, Harry P said: We know who the guilty parties are , 2 people out of 500 (number of Facebook members) have tainted things a tad but we will have a whip round to cover the fine and move on ! And what are you going to do about this pair of criminals? Are you going to report them, ban them or just cry a bit? I have already stated above that the team and majority of supporters are blameless and tarred by the behaviour of the two (or however many), but your comments seem to imply that there might be a wider problem within the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 4 hours ago, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas said: I think the flares🧨 and fireworks 💥 are a thing of the past. Most of the F-troop I saw on the weekend are that bloody old they were still wearing flare's 🤣 Jeff Chambers, Mr Mo, SPB and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, leedsunited said: Most of the F-troop I saw on the weekend are that bloody old they were still wearing flare's 🤣 Ha ha. If it had been anyone else but you leeds I’d have given it a “like”, of one sort or another, however we do have to maintain some standards on the forum, so I’ll stick with a cringe! I’d have added a picture but unfortunately I don’t speak emoji fluently‼️ leedsunited 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 7 hours ago, The Big Bad Fox said: I'd say its worth every penny. Falmouth won the senior cup that day, with the flares, support and atmosphere being the 12th man. Im sure with the club being fined, it wont happen again. I for one, would take an £870 fine for some silverware at my club. Some clubs pay that sort of money to 1/2 players each month 😱 Excuse me if I'm wrong ,but on the day of the senior cup the only pyrotechnics (yes that's what they are ,not fireworks ) I saw from the Falmouth fans were yellow smoke bombs ,not flares OUTSIDE the ground . Whereas 2 saltash supporters had hand held red distress flares not smoke bombs on the bank behind the Falmouth goal INSIDE the ground in the1rst half .If this game is the cause of the fines ,then have Saltash also been fined accordingly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Has the county only now just decided on this? And what a strange figure to come out with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheolderIgetthebetterIwas Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Cost of a hotel stay for the under 18s perhaps...lol mattelot, kevin richards, Mr Mo and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le boss Posted October 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: Has the county only now just decided on this? And what a strange figure to come out with! Apparently its three charges all added together - £70 for a homophobic comment by fans vs St Austell? and then £200 and £600 for flares at the Mousehole game?? Only what I have been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 Flares £800, Homophobic comments £70. Yep, sounds about right!!! Lafs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silly billy Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, leedsunited said: Most of the F-troop I saw on the weekend are that bloody old they were still wearing flare's 🤣 Didn't see any Bodmin supporters wearing flares at priory Saturday. Oh hang on a minute there wasn't any supporters there 😂 mattelot, Ian Pethick, TheolderIgetthebetterIwas and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, le boss said: Apparently its three charges all added together - £70 for a homophobic comment by fans vs St Austell? and then £200 and £600 for flares at the Mousehole game?? Only what I have been told. Ah right, so not the Senior Cup final as someone suggested earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedsunited Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, silly billy said: Didn't see any Bodmin supporters wearing flares at priory Saturday. Oh hang on a minute there wasn't any supporters there 😂 🎣🎣 Easy Peeze 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silly billy Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, leedsunited said: 🎣🎣 Easy Peeze 🤣 True though. Don't even see the 3 grumpy old men there anymore 😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Chambers Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 One Flare v Mousehole. A couple of alleged homophobic chants at St Austell away and a banger at the Helston home game. Wrong but not exactly crimes of the century. We'll learn from this and hopefully it won't happen again, I'm pretty sure it won't. The F-Troops growing as I type, we're here to stay and ain't going anywhere. We bring atmosphere and colour to every ground we go and a couple of negative events ain't changing a thing. Le boss... you're jealousy shines beautifully bright. EVERYWHERE WE GO. mattelot and Harry P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silly billy Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 55 minutes ago, silly billy said: Keep up the good work f troop mattelot and Jeff Chambers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 The Falmouth ultras. Ha. Jesus it’s village football hardly rangers v Celtic. Really a load of old blokes running down local high streets waving flares about in places like saltash and callington. 😂 what ever happened to just enjoying a pasty and pint watching the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Grose Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 9 hours ago, silly billy said: True though. Don't even see the 3 grumpy old men there anymore 😂😂😂😂 Unfortunately the three 'grumpy old men' all passed away this year. silly billy and mattelot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Bruegel the Elder said: Easy to say when you don’t have charred flesh! And what are you going to do about this pair of criminals? Are you going to report them, ban them or just cry a bit? I have already stated above that the team and majority of supporters are blameless and tarred by the behaviour of the two (or however many), but your comments seem to imply that there might be a wider problem within the club. Cry a bit ?? I😂😂😂 Wider problem within the club ? Please explain ? 8 hours ago, sportsman10 said: The Falmouth ultras. Ha. Jesus it’s village football hardly rangers v Celtic. Really a load of old blokes running down local high streets waving flares about in places like saltash and callington. 😂 what ever happened to just enjoying a pasty and pint watching the game. We would double the gates at callington and saltash (did they get fined for proper flares )😂👍💛🖤 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silly billy Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, Monsoon said: Unfortunately the three 'grumpy old men' all passed away this year. That's not good, I didn't know that otherwise I wouldn't of posted it. Do you know where Andy is? Used to fetch the balls and was always at the matches. Used to drink in the Garland. Haven't seen him for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Themanhimself said: £2.99 with increasing fees depending on the severity of the so called 'fart'. Take note Bald One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Grose Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, silly billy said: That's not good, I didn't know that otherwise I wouldn't of posted it. Do you know where Andy is? Used to fetch the balls and was always at the matches. Used to drink in the Garland. Haven't seen him for ages. I saw Andy at a Plymouth Argyle Ladies game a couple of months ago so he could be up in Plymouth living.I noticed he was heading for the back of the buildings that house the offices and changing rooms at the new Manadon pitch so maybe he's helping out there. silly billy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 16 hours ago, Harry P said: We know who the guilty parties are , 2 people out of 500 (number of Facebook members) have tainted things a tad but we will have a whip round to cover the fine and move on ! 4 hours ago, Harry P said: Cry a bit ?? I😂😂😂 Wider problem within the club ? Please explain ? We would double the gates at callington and saltash (did they get fined for proper flares )😂👍💛🖤 While you chose not to answer my question regarding what the club was going to do about the people who perpetrated these acts despite “knowing who the guilty parties are”, I am happy to explain myself. The casual way that you shrug off potentially dangerous activities with a whip round and move on, suggests that you don’t take these illegal actions (hence the fine) seriously. That, to me, suggests a worrying culture of ambivalence within the club structure. Explanation over. Satisfied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Town Man Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Not trying to make excuses for the F-Troop. (Did the crime so pay the fine) but can anyone confirm (maybe from Saltash FC or the CCFA (David Bray?)) how much Saltash were fined for allegedly letting off flares at the league cup final in May of this year at St Blazey both at the ground and in the club-house later? Would that not be £800 for the two offences? Consistency is very important when dealing with matters such as these. Especially given the size of the fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Bruegel stop being so grumpy!! the Falmouth crowd turned up at Helston and were well behaved were they not Le Boss? they all paid to get in and spent lots of money at the bar, surely Sportsman that is what local football is about and not a few people turning up like at Bodmin, Keep it up lads maybe cut back on the some of the pyrotechnics to keep some of the fair weather supporters happy. mattelot, silly billy and Jeff Chambers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, The Town Man said: Not trying to make excuses for the F-Troop. (Did the crime so pay the fine) but can anyone confirm (maybe from Saltash FC or the CCFA (David Bray?)) how much Saltash were fined for allegedly letting off flares at the league cup final in May of this year at St Blazey both at the ground and in the club-house later? Would that not be £800 for the two offences? Consistency is very important when dealing with matters such as these. Especially given the size of the fines. More I’d have thought, plus some compensation for the damage to the flooring in the club. The CCFA really do need to clamp down, or they’ll all be at it, and the governing body would bear some (at least moral) responsibly if/when anyone was to be seriously injured as a result of these lunatic actions. 5 minutes ago, Smiler said: Bruegel stop being so grumpy!! the Falmouth crowd turned up at Helston and were well behaved were they not Le Boss? they all paid to get in and spent lots of money at the bar, surely Sportsman that is what local football is about and not a few people turning up like at Bodmin, Keep it up lads maybe cut back on the some of the pyrotechnics to keep some of the fair weather supporters happy. I think that I’ve already made my admiration for the team and majority of the supporters in my first few posts above. Please try to read the whole thread before posting inaccurate criticism! Just concerned, not grumpy (at least, not any more than usual!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG AL Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, Bruegel the Elder said: More I’d have thought, plus some compensation for the damage to the flooring in the club. The CCFA really do need to clamp down, or they’ll all be at it, and the governing body would bear some (at least moral) responsibly if/when anyone was to be seriously injured as a result of these lunatic actions. I think that I’ve already made my admiration for the team and majority of the supporters in my first few posts above. Please try to read the whole thread before posting inaccurate criticism! Just concerned, not grumpy (at least, not any more than usual!). And what will Cornwall fa do with the fine money, perhaps buy some new black blazers for their brigade ! Quiet Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Packet article helps to answers some of the questions raised earlier in this thread. Seems like 'The Ashes' had the sense to heed initial warning, whilst 'F-Troop' chose to ignore. https://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/sport/17988320.falmouth-town-fined-800-cornwall-fa-pyrotechnics-use/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le boss Posted October 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Smiler said: Bruegel stop being so grumpy!! the Falmouth crowd turned up at Helston and were well behaved were they not Le Boss? they all paid to get in and spent lots of money at the bar, surely Sportsman that is what local football is about and not a few people turning up like at Bodmin, Keep it up lads maybe cut back on the some of the pyrotechnics to keep some of the fair weather supporters happy. They were extremely well behaved at Helston for the time I was there , as they were at the cricket club beforehand. There was one strange man in cut off denim shorts acting like a crazed lunatic but I guess there is always one 😕 Jeff Chambers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Leroy said: Packet article helps to answers some of the questions raised earlier in this thread. Seems like 'The Ashes' had the sense to heed initial warning, whilst 'F-Troop' chose to ignore. https://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/sport/17988320.falmouth-town-fined-800-cornwall-fa-pyrotechnics-use/ Apologies to the CCFA, I hadn’t worked out the chronology of the incidents, maybe they are getting a grip. Thanks to the Packet (and Leroy) for clarifying that for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Statement – Falmouth Town Towards the end of the 2018/19 season Cornwall FA were made aware of incidents at both The Cornwall FA Senior Cup Final at Bodmin Town and The Walter C Parsons League Cup Final at St Blazey. The incidents were in relation to the use of Pyrotechnics. The reports from The Senior Cup Final related to supporters of Falmouth Town and the reports from the League Cup Final were in relation to supporters of Saltash United. Having spoken with both clubs and to maintain consistency in our approach Cornwall FA did not issue charges against either club, however both clubs were written to and warned that should any more reports be received of pyrotechnics being used at games then charges would be issued against the offending club. Both clubs were also issued reminders that the use of Pyrotechnics is illegal and could result in criminal proceedings against any individuals found to have set off Pyrotechnics. Additionally all member clubs of Cornwall FA were written to and advised that the use of Pyrotechnics was forbidden at football matches, the statement issued was also circulated by The Kitchen Kit Southwest Peninsula League. Since the start of the season we have received reports of Pyrotechnics being used at two matches by supporters of Falmouth Town, firstly at a match against Mousehole AFC and secondly at a match against Helston Athletic FC. These incidents were investigated and the match officials for both games submitted statements. Subsequently Falmouth Town were charged for two separate breaches of FA Rule E20 (failure to Control the behaviour of Spectators) These cases were recently heard by Cornwall FA, in the first instance Falmouth Town were issued with a fine of £200, for the 2nd instance Falmouth Town were issued with a fine of £600. In the second case £300 of the fine was suspended for a period of 24 months. Should Falmouth Town be found guilty of a similar offence within a 24 month period then the £300 will be reinstated and added to any additional sanction. We would like to remind all clubs that the use of Pyrotechnics at Football Grounds is strictly prohibited, and should we receive reports then the matter will be investigated and charges will be issued and dealt with accordingly. Richard Pallot Governance Manager Cornwall Football Association Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruegel the Elder Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 Well that clears that up. It is being taken as seriously as it should. Incidentally, has the CCFA morphed into the CFAL without me noticing or are they separate entities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Chambers Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 14 hours ago, le boss said: They were extremely well behaved at Helston for the time I was there , as they were at the cricket club beforehand. There was one strange man in cut off denim shorts acting like a crazed lunatic but I guess there is always one 😕 Yes I saw that guy also le boss. Quite a handsome chap if I remember. mattelot, Quiet Man, Tommy Matthews and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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