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Here’s the draw for the Round 4 of the Cornwall Senior Cup

Liskeard Town v St Ives Town

Pendeen Rovers v Wadebridge Town

St Blazey v St Cleer

Wendron United * v Torpoint Athletic

St Day v Millbrook

Camelford v Saltash United

Mousehole v AFC St Austell

Dobwalls v Falmouth Town
 

* (Callington have been eliminated due to using an ineligible player)

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Pendeen took Wadebridge to extra time couple seasons ago? Last season? Good rematch! Banana skins for Blazey, Liskeard and Millbrook! They will have to be at it! Fancy Falmouth, Torpoint and Saltash to go through but won’t be a given at Camelford. And tie of the round Mousehole v St.Austell!!! One big gun going out before the quarter final stage. Decent draw 👍🏆

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6 hours ago, Hetty said:

What a schoolboy error by Callington. 

We as a club checked with all available websites, the player concerned was not on any of them, he had been banned for one game but didn't realise that the team he had been playing for(not us) when sent off had not played a game, the problem was the club he had been playing for had not updated the discipline web site. The league realised we had checked and had not played the player intentionally knowing he was banned, but felt they had no choice but to remove us from the senior cup with no further action being taken. 

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10 minutes ago, middle mans mate said:

We as a club checked with all available websites, the player concerned was not on any of them, he had been banned for one game but didn't realise that the team he had been playing for(not us) when sent off had not played a game, the problem was the club he had been playing for had not updated the discipline web site. The league realised we had checked and had not played the player intentionally knowing he was banned, but felt they had no choice but to remove us from the senior cup with no further action being taken. 

The 'County' realised we had checked.......( not the league.) 

And that was the situation in a nutshell.

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5 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said:

Had he been out of the country or something?

No, but a few weeks had passed since he was banned

1 hour ago, Dave Bartlam said:

Use the Matchday App! You'd have seen straight away that the player was suspended - a red card would have also appeared next to his name in the WGS.

It was checked, because the club who the player was playing for didn't update the app it wasn't there to see.... 

 

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12 hours ago, middle mans mate said:

No, but a few weeks had passed since he was banned

It was checked, because the club who the player was playing for didn't update the app it wasn't there to see.... 

 

It's not done by the club though - suspensions are applied by the referees inputting the red card onto the system which is then processed by the FA via Whole Game - it's pretty much an automated system. It definitely should have appeared - you wouldn't have got a notification because as you say, the suspension was "earned" at another Club - it should have definitely shown a red card next to his name though. If it didn't, I'm very surprised. The only thing Clubs do with regards to misconduct is acknowledge, pay the charge and put the dates that the player will miss in to the system. The only way it wouldn't have showed in the system is if the players other club had set the date in the system but that game wasn't played.

If it wasn't clear on the system - it should have been. I'm in the process of working with the FA for developments in the Whole Game system so I will make a point that all clubs a player is registered too should get a notification of a suspension regardless of whether they player received it playing for that team or not.

You're not the first and certainly won't be the last club this will happen too. 

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The player was sent off playing in st pirans a full 6 weeks before he played for us in the game in question. 
The days prior to the game, the suspension list sent out by the cornwall fa each week didnt show this player as suspended and neither did his account on the WGS. 
You mention that the club need to update the system to reflect the game he will be suspended from, this wasn’t done. After looking in to it, it would appear that the club the suspension was for initially logged the game the suspension would be served which was then postponed, the club then failed to alter the system to reflect this meaning the suspension would move to their next fixture. In not doing this, the player was then shown as resolving his suspension. 
While players are allowed to sign for different clubs across the county, this disconnect will always happen. However, the system is only as good as those using it and in this case a seemingly innocent mistake from one club has hit cost us a place in the cup. We’ll let someone else win it this year!

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Seems to me the club did everything it possibly could in the circumstances. If clubs have to use such systems surely they should be robust enough and designed to deal with what is a simple situation. To say that by relying on an FA system, the same thing has happened before and will happen again is simply not good enough imo, after all clubs are run by hard pressed volunteers, the FA and CFA for that matter have full time paid officials.

Merry Christmas 🎅

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