Dave Deacon Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 SOUTHERN LEAGUE, PREMIER SOUTH Tuesday 13th Basingstoke Town 3-0 Swindon Supermarine Frome Town 0-2 Merthyr Town Gloucester City 3-2 Plymouth Parkway Hanwell Town 3-1 Bracknell Town Hungerford Town 5-2 Gosport Borough Poole Town 1-0 Taunton Town Sholing 0-3 AFC Totton Tiverton Town 1-1 Dorchester Town Walton & Hersham 3-0 Marlow SOUTHERN LEAGUE, DIVISION ONE SOUTH TUESDAY 13th Bashley P-P Larkhall Athletic Bemerton Heath Harlequins 0-1 Westbury United Bideford 0-2 Exmouth Town Cribbs 0-2 Mousehole Evesham United 2-0 Bristol Manor Farm Falmouth Town 1-0 Tavistock Helston Athletic 2-2 Willand Rovers Malvern Town 4-1 Didcot Town Thatcham Town 1-0 Shaftesbury Yate Town 2-1 Bishops Cleeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 Some tough games tonight for helston , Falmouth and parkway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted August 13 Author Report Share Posted August 13 3 hours ago, sportsman10 said: Some tough games tonight for helston , Falmouth and parkway Mousehole got a tricky one as well - Cribbs up in top group last season and a heck of a trip for midweek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jacka Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 Really long journey for the boys today, Cribbs a decent side so expecting a very hard game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thomas Allcock Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 No problem for Mousehole 0-2 win (never doubted it), the biggest shock of the night is Attendance 88 at Helston, which is woeful for the Southern League 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 Falmouth Town 1-0 Tavistock Bradley Leivers Falmouthman, Quiet Man, mattelot and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 42 minutes ago, Deano said: Falmouth Town 1-0 Tavistock Bradley Leivers Attendance 505 Another Clean sheet for Morgan-thats No.27 from 56 Appearances. Town Fan, mattelot, Thecupfootballblogger and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 19 minutes ago, Deano said: Falmouth Town 1-0 Tavistock Bradley Leivers ATT 6 times more than Helston Falmouthman and Buckland Jim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy follower Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 And 1/5th of Truros 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 11 minutes ago, Footy follower said: And 1/5th of Truros 👀 Won't be their next game though. Town Fan and Buckland Jim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted August 13 Author Report Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, John Thomas Allcock said: No problem for Mousehole 0-2 win (never doubted it), the biggest shock of the night is Attendance 88 at Helston, which is woeful for the Southern League 😳 It must be so disappointing for the club considering they are playing highest ever standard the club has known! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tavi Fan Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 We’ll play a lot worse than we have in our opening two games and win games this season. Dave Deacon and Thecupfootballblogger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Town Man Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 13 minutes ago, Tavi Fan said: We’ll play a lot worse than we have in our opening two games and win games this season. Agreed. Falmouth needed a great defensive display in the 2nd half and it was an inspired performance from young keeper Morgan Coxhead. Diving at the forward's feet, saves, punches. He looks much improved from last season. Saw the Westbury v Helston match on Saturday and neither of those sides looked a patch on Tavistock. Thecupfootballblogger, Town Fan and mattelot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Both Sides of the Tamar Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, John Thomas Allcock said: No problem for Mousehole 0-2 win (never doubted it), the biggest shock of the night is Attendance 88 at Helston, which is woeful for the Southern League 😳 We all know that without their ‘sugar daddy’ there would be no Southern League football at Helston. Even with improvements at the ground it is still a modest home, with their support even more so. Let’s hope their principal backer doesn’t lose interest in the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Town Fan Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, Footy follower said: And 1/5th of Truros 👀 Early days. Truro had the novelty factor. Falmouth Town steadily building up support and there was a heck of an atmosphere at Bickland Park. Great value for a tenner! A great preformance against a very competitive Tavistock side. mattelot, Buckland Jim and The Town Man 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 88 fans is woefully bad and not sustainable for southern league football. It also sounded like a cracking game shame not many where there . The question is now with famouth and Truro both playing in higher leagues where are the fans helston need coming from ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 I genuinely believe clubs need to look at fixtures and see what is going on around them and move fixtures very early on to get the best crowds possible. Helston could have played Wednesday night for example. In a couple weeks on a Tuesday night. Buckland v St Austell Brixham v St Blazey St Austell Res v St Blazey Res. All fixtures on the same night. Away support for both first teams could be very low or less watching the reserves. Either way, not helpful to get the best out of these fixtures. Darin Morse, Luke Gibbons, Thecupfootballblogger and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckland Jim Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 9 hours ago, Footy follower said: And 1/5th of Truros 👀 There were a lot of groundhoppers there for the first match. When the novelty wears off it will be back to mid three figure gates Town Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 2 hours ago, sportsman10 said: 88 fans is woefully bad and not sustainable for southern league football. It also sounded like a cracking game shame not many where there . The question is now with famouth and Truro both playing in higher leagues where are the fans helston need coming from ?? Is there any work going on to engage the locals a bit more? No matter how you look at it, an attendance of 88 in a town of just about 12,000 is really poor. I expect there'll be more than that in a Helston pub on Saturday lunchtime watching Ipswich v Liverpool. John Thomas Allcock, Town Fan, sportsman10 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 46 minutes ago, Ian Pethick said: Is there any work going on to engage the locals a bit more? No matter how you look at it, an attendance of 88 in a town of just about 12,000 is really poor. I expect there'll be more than that in a Helston pub on Saturday lunchtime watching Ipswich v Liverpool. Also sounded like it was game of the night. 4 great goals. 2 missed penalty, a red card for Crago on his home debut. I do hope the crowds pick up. parkway falling to a narrow defeat. 3 nil down so did will to fight back. Still early and 2 tough games. 6 goals conceded with. New defence maybe will take some time to gel. a run of another tough lot fixtures coming up with Tiverton away bank holiday Monday . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Odgers Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 11 hours ago, Mike Odgers said: Attendance 505 Another Clean sheet for Morgan-thats No.27 from 56 Appearances. Westy's 400th.game as Manager Tom Annear 250th. Appearance Town Fan, mattelot, Gorgie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 45 minutes ago, sportsman10 said: Also sounded like it was game of the night. 4 great goals. 2 missed penalty, a red card for Crago on his home debut. I do hope the crowds pick up. parkway falling to a narrow defeat. 3 nil down so did will to fight back. Still early and 2 tough games. 6 goals conceded with. New defence maybe will take some time to gel. a run of another tough lot fixtures coming up with Tiverton away bank holiday Monday . Luke McCormick in goal for Parkway last night. Zak Baker recalled from loan by Argyle yesterday, obviously required by them as cover with the sale of Michael Cooper to Sheff Utd being imminent. Hopefully, Baker will return when a replacement is secured in the last few weeks of the window. Is a reminder though of the risks behind bringing in a loan goalkeeper from a league club. Sounded like an impressive second half showing to follow the impressive first half display on Saturday. Seems like the new manager and new look side aren't too far away from getting points on the board, just a bit of consistency needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Gibbons Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 Superb results for the Cornish sides yesterday. Keep flying that flag! Ian Pethick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Town Man Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 3 hours ago, Ian Pethick said: Is there any work going on to engage the locals a bit more? No matter how you look at it, an attendance of 88 in a town of just about 12,000 is really poor. I expect there'll be more than that in a Helston pub on Saturday lunchtime watching Ipswich v Liverpool. Just a thought. It seems that Helston have moved away even more this season from starting local players. Sensible decision in some respects given the travelling in this league. Also management team are Devon-based I believe so training in Saltash twice a week which is a commitment for a West-Cornwall based player. Does all this have an effect on attendances? Parents/friends/relatives not attending home games to support. Crowd have less affinity with non-local players etc. That being said, Falmouth during their hey-day had a heavy East Cornwall/Devon bias and the crowds didn't seem to suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railwayman in Exile Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 Everyone has a model to work with so how Helston fund it is down to them, each club is unknown but plenty of speculation. Helston must be disappointed, it was certainly heavily advertised, doesn't help Falmouth being at home. I would have thought a Wednesday night might have brought in a few more but we will never know, but has been said in the past, better planning to avoid other clubs would certainly help the floating fan. Mousehole's average hasn't moved much in the last couple of seasons, Falmouth we know are well supported, and Truro everyone thinks will drop dramatically, who knows, only time will tell. Though some of those people said Truro weren't returning home and the ground wouldn't be ready so it's only guess work and speculation. Guess it makes the forum a little more interesting. Hopefully they will all do well within their own model. Ian Pethick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeww Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 Not sure why people are surprised at the att of 88, they've never pulled in large numbers at Kellaway Park. Thank god for Boxing Day 😅 mattelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piran Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 On 13/08/2024 at 22:10, John Thomas Allcock said: No problem for Mousehole 0-2 win (never doubted it), the biggest shock of the night is Attendance 88 at Helston, which is woeful for the Southern League 😳 Helston probably has the biggest online following if YouTube stats are anything to go by. I regularly receive comments from viewers up country and abroad who watch Helston’s games and say that Helston is their second team or the non-league club that they follow. But yes, the home fixtures of the respective Cornish clubs could be better arranged. John Thomas Allcock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railwayman in Exile Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 Any highlights coming our way Mark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piran Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 3 hours ago, Railwayman in Exile said: Any highlights coming our way Mark? Not for this game sadly, as it turned out. I tweeted this morning that Helston have at least 43 more games to play this season and I will cover the vast majority but not all of them. John Thomas Allcock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattelot Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 On 13/08/2024 at 22:10, John Thomas Allcock said: No problem for Mousehole 0-2 win (never doubted it), the biggest shock of the night is Attendance 88 at Helston, which is woeful for the Southern League 😳 Whats happened to our old friend The Drumming Nutter?.Hope he's OK. Jeff Chambers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasider Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 I think clubs have to inform the southern league of their home midweek night so they could have sorted it better some years ago Exmouth moved to Wednesday to avoid Tuesday clashes with Exeter City I think Tavistock did the same to miss plymouth argyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Both Sides of the Tamar Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 On 13/08/2024 at 22:59, mattelot said: ATT 6 times more than Helston Five times less than Truro City 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thomas Allcock Posted August 16 Report Share Posted August 16 19 hours ago, mattelot said: Whats happened to our old friend The Drumming Nutter?.Hope he's OK. He is no more, he shuttled off this mortal coil, ceased to be, R.I.P Drumming Nutter ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Chambers Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 21 hours ago, Both Sides of the Tamar said: Five times less than Truro City 😉 Lets see what sort of attendances Truro get when the novelty wears off. With all the razzmataz of the "Footballs coming home" stuff going on i think the attendance last Saturday was predictable. Truro will get very good crowds but once winter sets in and if they have nothing to play for crowds will drop. We had a near 2000 crowd last boxing day for a league game and a 1500 crowd in the playoffs at Bickland Park and average just under 500/ game. But we never take our attendances for granted and know full well if the club is struggling on the pitch it will reflect with the attendance figures. Bickland Park is still the best atmosphere in Cornwall by a country mile and there is nowhere like the Packet End. And yes...everyone needs to blow their own trumpet at times. Good luck to all the Cornish sides today. UTMT. Town Fan, Tommy Matthews, The Town Man and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Chambers Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 18 hours ago, John Thomas Allcock said: He is no more, he shuttled off this mortal coil, ceased to be, R.I.P Drumming Nutter ☹️ What happened John ? I thought you 3 drummers were at Trungle for life ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Both Sides of the Tamar Posted August 17 Report Share Posted August 17 12 hours ago, Jeff Chambers said: Lets see what sort of attendances Truro get when the novelty wears off. With all the razzmataz of the "Footballs coming home" stuff going on i think the attendance last Saturday was predictable. Truro will get very good crowds but once winter sets in and if they have nothing to play for crowds will drop. We had a near 2000 crowd last boxing day for a league game and a 1500 crowd in the playoffs at Bickland Park and average just under 500/ game. But we never take our attendances for granted and know full well if the club is struggling on the pitch it will reflect with the attendance figures. Bickland Park is still the best atmosphere in Cornwall by a country mile and there is nowhere like the Packet End. And yes...everyone needs to blow their own trumpet at times. Good luck to all the Cornish sides today. UTMT. I said that somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I was at Buckland last season twice and it has its own unique charm. I hope to get there again this season. Good luck in the SL. Fal Tn a proper Cornish football institution whom I've a lot of respect for. Helston are where they are because of one man's money. A modest ground and even more modest attendances. They are not viable at SL without 'sugar daddy' (sadly). Jeff Chambers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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