Craze Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Rumour going around on Facebook that at least three of our lads are being hit with charges related to gambling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Austen Booth currently at Torquay, received a 9 month ban this week for approximately 300 bets made between 2017 to 2021. Think there are a few more national league cases coming up in the next few weeks from what I’ve heard but not my business to say really unless it’s already been confirmed like Austen’s. You probably remember Ed Palmer, Shane White, and Ryan Brett being in the news for the same thing a couple of seasons ago when they played for City. The FA seem to clamp down on players at National league level around the country quite a bit for some reason 🤔🤔🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Probably because those players don’t have the finances to defend themselves! yet the Premier League and The FA continue to allow Betting companies to sponsor shirts and grounds. Brianmooreshead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Does seem hypocritical when football, and football broadcasting, is absolutely awash with money from big gambling. You only have to listen to Talksport or watch ITV4 and Sky Sports for any length of time to find yourself bombarded with ads (usually featuring former players). These all tell us that chucking money away is central to the "big match experience." I find it pretty depressing, especially as I know betting addicts that have had their lives ruined. Silly boys though, they must know the rules by now. If the rumours are true, we'll see how Truro handles this. They didn't even acknowledge the suspensions handed down to their players a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Dan Rooney is already serving a months suspension? But it allows him to train with the club? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4ngpgldk75o.amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy follower Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 The trouble with knowing the rules now is that they probably didn't know the rules in 2017 when all these charges start. To me the only issue that counts is if they have bet on their own clubs. And also if players haven't bet on games since 2021 they've obviously learnt the rules....why punish then in 2024? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silly billy Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 I think betting is getting out of control, loads of people bet on everything and anything nowadays, some daily, same old story though, you only here about it if they win. The Town Man, Footy follower and Ian Pethick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swjoduk Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 FA report out, despite more bets than Austen Booth Tyler Harvey only received a £550 fine, no ban https://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/discipline-cases/2024/the-fa-v-tyler-harvey---5-august-2024.ashx No report yet for Austen so not sure what he did other than the number of bets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The truth Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 I think to have any betting partners as sponsors is fine as long as you don’t punish players for using said partners , it’s disgusting how they are happy to take money from them but then go to the moral high ground when it’s suits them hopefully a big personality will be brave enough to call bullsh*t soon and to hold the fa to account Ian Pethick, Railwayman in Exile and St Darren 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Matthews Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 On 24/08/2024 at 06:34, St Darren said: Probably because those players don’t have the finances to defend themselves! yet the Premier League and The FA continue to allow Betting companies to sponsor shirts and grounds. Betting companies are soon to be stopped from being a shirt sponsor. That’s why Chelsea didn’t have a sponsor for their shirts at the start of last season. Not sure of the finer details but it’s being phased out. Ian Pethick and Town Fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 37 minutes ago, Tommy Matthews said: Betting companies are soon to be stopped from being a shirt sponsor. That’s why Chelsea didn’t have a sponsor for their shirts at the start of last season. Not sure of the finer details but it’s being phased out. Banned from the start of the 2025/26 season. Although tellingly, the wording is a ban on "front of shirt sponsorship." Town Fan and Tommy Matthews 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 Austen Booth now released (or sacked) by Torquay after receiving his 9 month suspension. Reading the details of his conviction by the FA, he actually bet on his side losing matches that he played in. In my opinion, very lucky to get away with 9 months. A superb player, but this and effectively going on strike at Taunton last season, seriously tarnishes his reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Darren Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 Yet he’s been invited to go back to the club for pre season. The club have released (sacked) him to save money. Sensible decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy follower Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 Betting on random games and betting against your own team are totally different......one is unforgiveable and the other is "a normal male pastime" RAPPO and Ian Pethick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craze Posted September 23 Author Report Share Posted September 23 On 21/09/2024 at 16:59, Footy follower said: Betting on random games and betting against your own team are totally different......one is unforgiveable and the other is "a normal male pastime" Shouldn’t be allowed to play again, how’s he not been charged with match fixing? Ian Pethick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footy follower Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 I imagine that he wasn't match fixing but more using his insider knowledge to put the bets on...........but still....a stupid thing to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swjoduk Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 If you look here you will see a few more naughty boys caught out for betting. If you read the reports you will see what they were charged with https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/written-reasons Third drop down box down, select E8 failure to comply with betting rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 34 minutes ago, swjoduk said: If you look here you will see a few more naughty boys caught out for betting. If you read the reports you will see what they were charged with https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/written-reasons Third drop down box down, select E8 failure to comply with betting rules Am I reading this correctly? Looks to me like a current Truro City squad member is appealing a 6 month suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craze Posted October 8 Author Report Share Posted October 8 25 minutes ago, Ian Pethick said: Am I reading this correctly? Looks to me like a current Truro City squad member is appealing a 6 month suspension. Club captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 54 minutes ago, Ian Pethick said: Am I reading this correctly? Looks to me like a current Truro City squad member is appealing a 6 month suspension. Double whammy by the looks of it - possible ban and already lost money on the bets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 8 minutes ago, Dave Deacon said: Double whammy by the looks of it - possible ban and already lost money on the bets! A mugs game. People might learn one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 To be honest they were all young lads betting a few quid on football matches . Bit stupid but most probably didn’t understand the severity of it. banning someone for 6-9 months for 10 quid here and there 4 years ago seems a bit excessive you can go out and deliberately injure a player or break his leg and get 3 game ban but put a bet on in 2017 on Stoke v Wigan and get 6 month ban. a fine and attend a discussion on dangers of gambling would have been more suitable. But this is the FA RAPPO, Brianmooreshead, Dave Deacon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Town Man Posted October 8 Report Share Posted October 8 7 hours ago, sportsman10 said: To be honest they were all young lads betting a few quid on football matches . Bit stupid but most probably didn’t understand the severity of it. banning someone for 6-9 months for 10 quid here and there 4 years ago seems a bit excessive you can go out and deliberately injure a player or break his leg and get 3 game ban but put a bet on in 2017 on Stoke v Wigan and get 6 month ban. a fine and attend a discussion on dangers of gambling would have been more suitable. But this is the FA The game is happy to take all the sponsorship money from the gambling websites but then come down hard on players who get drawn in. I am sure football is an attractive enough product to appeal to other sponsors, so as not to have to rely on gambling sites, and all the problems with addiction they bring. St Darren, Ian Pethick, Brianmooreshead and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Matthews Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 10 hours ago, The Town Man said: The game is happy to take all the sponsorship money from the gambling websites but then come down hard on players who get drawn in. I am sure football is an attractive enough product to appeal to other sponsors, so as not to have to rely on gambling sites, and all the problems with addiction they bring. The gambling industry is being phased out of shirt sponsorship at top level but it’s already too late. There’s an epidemic on the horizon. Brianmooreshead, Town Fan and MattP 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pethick Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 3 hours ago, Tommy Matthews said: The gambling industry is being phased out of shirt sponsorship at top level but it’s already too late. There’s an epidemic on the horizon. The exact wording is that all gambling company logos will be removed from the "front of their playing shirts" by season 2025/26. Still leaves the back of shirts, sleeves, tracksuits and warm up kit etc, etc. I agree though, we are on the verge of an epidemic. Lack of action by government (not just the FA and other sporting bodies) has brought us to this. Tommy Matthews 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmooreshead Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 20 hours ago, sportsman10 said: To be honest they were all young lads betting a few quid on football matches . Bit stupid but most probably didn’t understand the severity of it. banning someone for 6-9 months for 10 quid here and there 4 years ago seems a bit excessive you can go out and deliberately injure a player or break his leg and get 3 game ban but put a bet on in 2017 on Stoke v Wigan and get 6 month ban. a fine and attend a discussion on dangers of gambling would have been more suitable. But this is the FA Betting on your own team is a bit suss though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsman10 Posted October 9 Report Share Posted October 9 3 minutes ago, Brianmooreshead said: Betting on your own team is a bit suss though True but you’re talking about 20 year old lads who see thier team on an app and put 10 quid on here and there. Just immaturity rather than any bigger money match fixing operation. Just heavy handed from the Fa as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Deacon Posted Thursday at 11:51 Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:51 In effect a suspended sentence 👍 28)Considering the documentary evidence provided by the Parties, as well as the aggravating factor above, but also the Player’s clean disciplinary record, co-operation with the investigation and other mitigating factors as outlined, the Commission concluded that a reasonable and proportionate fine shall be in the sum of £500 (Five Hundred Pounds Sterling) with a six-month suspension from all football and football related activity. That suspension shall be suspended until the conclusion of the 2025/26 football season. In the event of any such similar breach the suspended period of suspension will be activated with effect from the date of the final determination of the proceedings before the Regulatory Commission dealing with the new breaches, in addition to any penalty for the new breaches imposed by that Regulatory Commission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfenlon Posted Saturday at 21:37 Report Share Posted Saturday at 21:37 On 09/10/2024 at 10:17, Ian Pethick said: The exact wording is that all gambling company logos will be removed from the "front of their playing shirts" by season 2025/26. Still leaves the back of shirts, sleeves, tracksuits and warm up kit etc, etc. I agree though, we are on the verge of an epidemic. Lack of action by government (not just the FA and other sporting bodies) has brought us to this. That’s exactly the issue. With the exception of Austen Booth’s betting on his own sides, you can’t exactly blame players for betting when, even after this ban, you’ll see the Sky Bet Football League Championship fixture between Stoke City and West Bromwich Albion at the Bet365 Stadium. Ian Pethick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Matthews Posted Sunday at 16:25 Report Share Posted Sunday at 16:25 18 hours ago, tfenlon said: That’s exactly the issue. With the exception of Austen Booth’s betting on his own sides, you can’t exactly blame players for betting when, even after this ban, you’ll see the Sky Bet Football League Championship fixture between Stoke City and West Bromwich Albion at the Bet365 Stadium. There’s an epidemic coming. There’s betting everywhere and every club’s got a betting partner. All you need is your phone to call or use the app. I’ve got a friend who was a data analyst for a betting company and he told me that if someone is making good money they cancel their account. I’ve got another mate who actively looks for people who’ll allow him to use their name to bet as they won’t take bets from him as he makes too much money. To balance this, a family member and another friend have lost huge amounts betting and I’ve never placed a bet in my life. It’s coming but that’s just my opinion. Dave Deacon, Ian Pethick, RAPPO and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Town Man Posted Sunday at 21:08 Report Share Posted Sunday at 21:08 4 hours ago, Tommy Matthews said: There’s an epidemic coming. There’s betting everywhere and every club’s got a betting partner. All you need is your phone to call or use the app. I’ve got a friend who was a data analyst for a betting company and he told me that if someone is making good money they cancel their account. I’ve got another mate who actively looks for people who’ll allow him to use their name to bet as they won’t take bets from him as he makes too much money. To balance this, a family member and another friend have lost huge amounts betting and I’ve never placed a bet in my life. It’s coming but that’s just my opinion. Betting companies only exist for one reason, to take everyone's money. Punters aren't meant to win. That is how they can afford to sponsor Premier League clubs for instance. The returns are huge. Ian Pethick, RAPPO and Tommy Matthews 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPPO Posted 20 hours ago Report Share Posted 20 hours ago So true gents, spot on really! Last year I paid for 2 holidays from what I’d won in my gambling accounts mainly on football and darts! Only Turkey for a week and a 4 day city break in Krakow but very nice. I had a £920 win with Betway, drew out the £900 left about £20 in there and like Tom said they cancelled my account the next day! Tried getting my other £20 back for about a month and gave up! They’re based in Malta and impossible to get hold of!! This year I was £300 down just betting on the euros!! It’s a mugs game really!! I just do fun bets now after that, couple of quid here and there but you’re better off not betting at all really unless you’re a very disciplined person and don’t go chasing your losses! My grandad used to do the horses every day and I’d ask how he was getting on and he’d say “you never see a bookie on a bicycle boy” think that sums it up perfectly really!!! 👍 The Town Man, Buckland Jim, Tommy Matthews and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckland Jim Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago I just stick to fun bets, £2 every Saturday and that's me done. RAPPO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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